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[Necro910]

On a related note...

Does this mean that DF will eventually have magic?

The magma man hanging around my addy tube assures me that nothing supernatural is planned 

Hmm... That makes me think of a terrifying idea... What if you get one of those forgotten beast diplomats, but its a flame beast? He would hunt down your mayor and talk to him while melting his face off! Setting ablaze your entire fort in the process!

'whats wrong with you urist mcmayor?'
'MY FACE IS FUCKING MELTING YOU MORON!'
'oops, sorry.'
'GAHH! FUCK! THE FORT'S ON FIRE!'

you get the picture.

Then the mayor and some other dorfs die from the fire and masterwork items are destroyed. Congratulations! Tatrum Spiral.

YOU DARE THROW A -Mug- AT ME? YOU MUST DIE *pow pow!*

[Teneb]

On a related note...

Does this mean that DF will eventually have magic?

The magma man hanging around my addy tube assures me that nothing supernatural is planned 

Hmm... That makes me think of a terrifying idea... What if you get one of those forgotten beast diplomats, but its a flame beast? He would hunt down your mayor and talk to him while melting his face off! Setting ablaze your entire fort in the process!

'whats wrong with you urist mcmayor?'
'MY FACE IS FUCKING MELTING YOU MORON!'
'oops, sorry.'
'GAHH! FUCK! THE FORT'S ON FIRE!'

you get the picture.

Then the mayor and some other dorfs die from the fire and masterwork items are destroyed. Congratulations! Tatrum Spiral.

YOU DARE THROW A -Mug- AT ME? YOU MUST DIE *pow pow!*

But it menaces with spikes of cat elf leather! How could you be insulted by that?

[GreatWyrmGold]

If a vampire or werewolf or whatever can become a zombie, someone needs to make syndromes for ninja, pirate, and robot, apply them to a dwarf, and then make that into a zombie.

[Naryar]

If a vampire or werewolf or whatever can become a zombie, someone needs to make syndromes for ninja, pirate, and robot, apply them to a dwarf, and then make that into a zombie.

What would you propose for that ?

Robot: body made of iron, high intellectual and physical attributes but low social attributes
Ninja: Natural skill for stealth and fighting, notably dodging, wrestling and swordsdwarf
Pirate: Natural skill for fighting and swordsdwarf, automatic pet parrot, more preferences for booze, andrrr arrr tagrrr similarrr to LISPrrr thatrrr makes the pirrrate talk with lots of RRRR's

[Necro910]

On a related note...

Does this mean that DF will eventually have magic?

The magma man hanging around my addy tube assures me that nothing supernatural is planned 

Hmm... That makes me think of a terrifying idea... What if you get one of those forgotten beast diplomats, but its a flame beast? He would hunt down your mayor and talk to him while melting his face off! Setting ablaze your entire fort in the process!

'whats wrong with you urist mcmayor?'
'MY FACE IS FUCKING MELTING YOU MORON!'
'oops, sorry.'
'GAHH! FUCK! THE FORT'S ON FIRE!'

you get the picture.

Then the mayor and some other dorfs die from the fire and masterwork items are destroyed. Congratulations! Tatrum Spiral.

YOU DARE THROW A -Mug- AT ME? YOU MUST DIE *pow pow!*

But it menaces with spikes of cat elf leather! How could you be insulted by that?

I AM A DIPLOMAT OF THE HUMANS! HOW DARE YOU THROW A SAPIENT'S HIDE AT ME, YOU MONSTER!

I'm thirsty.

[Girlinhat]

Elves will gladly buy an elf leather waterskin and batching backpack made from last year's traders...

[Necro910]

Elves will gladly buy an elf leather waterskin and batching backpack made from last year's traders...

I know 

But the demon-worshipping humans on the other hand...

[Zdrok]

My god this will be cool.  If you're a dwarf from the good areas, you're a simple minded, old fashioned kill and dump corpses guy.  If you're a dwarf from the evil areas, you know that all corpses MUST BE BURNED and body parts MUST BE DUMPED INT A PIT OF MAGMA.  It'll really add to the personality of each biome.

[Necro910]

My god this will be cool.  If you're a dwarf from the good areas, you're a simple minded, old fashioned kill and dump corpses guy (Mid West).  If you're a dwarf from the evil areas, you know that all corpses MUST BE BURNED and body parts MUST BE DUMPED INT A PIT OF MAGMA.  It'll really add to the personality of each biome.(South)

There already are culture differences in DF. Dwarves from different areas and countries will have different hair and beard styles. Such as braided or unbraided.

[YetAnotherStupidDorf]

I really hope this whole "DF: zombie apocalypse edition" will be able to turn off or able to set probability in world gen. As fun as it, zombie apocalypse destroying world over and over in every worldgen can get old.

[Necro910]

I really hope this whole "DF: zombie apocalypse edition" will be able to turn off or able to set probability in world gen. As fun as it, zombie apocalypse destroying world over and over in every worldgen can get old.

It'll just be in evil and surrounding areas. It won't be repetitive apocalypse. It'll be more of a biome thing.

[Marthnn]

I really hope this whole "DF: zombie apocalypse edition" will be able to turn off or able to set probability in world gen. As fun as it, zombie apocalypse destroying world over and over in every worldgen can get old.

It'll just be in evil and surrounding areas. It won't be repetitive apocalypse. It'll be more of a biome thing.

So... now we have to tweak worldgen params to have mostly evil regions, is that what you're saying?

With a worldgen stopping criteria at a given undead proportion (similar to the % megabeasts dead already in place), we could reliably play a world on the verge of zombie apocalypse.

[Necro910]

I really hope this whole "DF: zombie apocalypse edition" will be able to turn off or able to set probability in world gen. As fun as it, zombie apocalypse destroying world over and over in every worldgen can get old.

It'll just be in evil and surrounding areas. It won't be repetitive apocalypse. It'll be more of a biome thing.

So... now we have to tweak worldgen params to have mostly evil regions, is that what you're saying?

With a worldgen stopping criteria at a given undead proportion (similar to the % megabeasts dead already in place), we could reliably play a world on the verge of zombie apocalypse.

Or, we could make it so 100% of the world is zombies, and our adventurers/dwarves are the last people!


OOOOOHHHH! Make a safe zone in the mountains, complete with 10 z-level high walls and auto-kill traps to kill zombies! Then use DF hack to make the dwarves stay there, and try to reach safety in adv. mode!

Oh man.... This is gonna get good!

[Psieye]

I really hope this whole "DF: zombie apocalypse edition" will be able to turn off or able to set probability in world gen. As fun as it, zombie apocalypse destroying world over and over in every worldgen can get old.

It'll just be in evil and surrounding areas. It won't be repetitive apocalypse. It'll be more of a biome thing.

No, it won't be restricted to biomes. Yes, evil biomes can perform necromancy automatically. But the whole point of Secrets is for necromancy to be done in any biome by some key historical figure. Optionally, said figure will send out his undead army to siege you - again no matter what biome your fort is in.

Also yes, Toady has said there'll be worldgen settings to avoid these new features - though at first they'll be rather coarse so people won't have the new surprises spoiled.

[Necro910]

I really hope this whole "DF: zombie apocalypse edition" will be able to turn off or able to set probability in world gen. As fun as it, zombie apocalypse destroying world over and over in every worldgen can get old.

It'll just be in evil and surrounding areas. It won't be repetitive apocalypse. It'll be more of a biome thing.

No, it won't be restricted to biomes. Yes, evil biomes can perform necromancy automatically. But the whole point of Secrets is for necromancy to be done in any biome by some key historical figure. Optionally, said figure will send out his undead army to siege you - again no matter what biome your fort is in.

Also yes, Toady has said there'll be worldgen settings to avoid these new features - though at first they'll be rather coarse so people won't have the new surprises spoiled.

BY ARMOK. THIS IS AWESOME.

I want to have an adventurer discover necromancy, and then go wipe out the humans! If the forest retreats get fixed, I'll kill the elves first!

Elf arm 12943 strikes you in the leg, bruising the muscle through the skin!