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[Imp]

Finally, there will be a very unusual effect that only occurs in evil biomes.  The "mystery cloud" ... Do you feel lucky?

This sounds AWESOME.

I would deeply love to be able to do 'something' (ritual? ) that would allow one to cause some 'random happenings' either throughout the map or throughout a small range centered on a building, or maybe even (most awesomely) in some space that one could designate.

Like... a chaos seed, and once it ripens it... instead of becoming a plant, it becomes something that makes a "mystery cloud", or something that maybe could be stored in a (food?) stockpile, but if allowed to rot, will produce a mystery cloud around where it is (instead of miasma?) - which would allow us to play with it where farms could not be made, like on constructed floors or the middle of bridges or such.

This sounds AWESOME!

[o_O[WTFace]]

That sounds like fun, different biomes will have real differences and gameplay effects.  It isn't possible to add clouds and weather to the caverns is it? 

[Jilladilla]

That sounds like fun, different biomes will have real differences and gameplay effects.  It isn't possible to add clouds and weather to the caverns is it?

why would the caverns have weather? they're underground!

[Man of Paper]

That sounds like fun, different biomes will have real differences and gameplay effects.  It isn't possible to add clouds and weather to the caverns is it?

why would the caverns have weather? they're underground!

That's what'd make it neat. Especially in an evil biome, where dwarven blood rains from the ceiling of the cavern, pooling on the ground below.

[Stirk]

That sounds like fun, different biomes will have real differences and gameplay effects.  It isn't possible to add clouds and weather to the caverns is it?

why would the caverns have weather? they're underground!

I can think of a few things that would go good underground, maybe gas leaks and the like in the form of cloud weather. Or locusts. Or something.

The weather does sound interesting...If it continues like that, I will just have to build a roof over the entire fort to keep everything out. Maybe sacrificing the occasional once-caged goblin to the weather, just 'cause.

[Vanaheimer]

I think I got pretty lucky with my world gen/embark site. 4 levels down I find a hefty vein of Gold and what looks to be a decent sized vein of Iovite! Little smattering of Platinum too.

Is this luck, or do most embark sites find valuable metals so quickly?

edit:
Abyssal Eye too O_o

[Stirk]

Abyssal eyes ALWAYs show up in the middle of an Iovite vain. And assuming that you have the parameters set to high, and embarked on a decent sight, then yes, it would probably be that common.

But the gold is easy to get if you abuse the magma alchemist labs after finding magma. 10 rocks and some time= gold bar, 10 magma alchemy labs, stout labor, and a good metal smith and you can make everyone an item out of pure gold, and have left over for export.

But really, metal is easy to get on this mod. Even if you embark somewhere with no iron, no flux, and only a vain of some galena, you can get pretty much unlimited iron by doing the ceremony of victory with lead goblets (I suggest not drinking from them...) and melting down the anvils, as well as getting some nice damascus steel swords and some steel runecloaks from it. The flux can be claimed from the fire temple, for free.

To recap, yes, if you have your metal on high, but yo don't really need it.

[Vanaheimer]

Alright. I was jumping for joy figuring I'd lucked out *chuckles*

[Imp]

Alright. I was jumping for joy figuring I'd lucked out *chuckles*

You're playing this mod; you have indeed lucked out and shall surely find excessive luck of all possible varieties keeping you jumping on a very regular basis 

[Vanaheimer]

Playing this mod and learning how to make a functioning fortress at the same time.

I figured it'd be fun.

[wyrdness]

Playing this mod and learning how to make a functioning fortress at the same time.

I figured it'd be fun.

That's pretty much what I did. Usually it all goes great... Until everything goes horribly, horribly wrong. So just like vanilla DF for me.

[Vanaheimer]

Playing this mod and learning how to make a functioning fortress at the same time.

I figured it'd be fun.

That's pretty much what I did. Usually it all goes great... Until everything goes horribly, horribly wrong. So just like vanilla DF for me.

Precisely! And this mod has *More* ways for it to all go terribly wrong!

I'm just waiting until the voidwalkers take notice of one of more forts.

[narhiril]

Ok...  I finished up the inner workings of saboteurs tonight.  I'm not entirely sure how the game is going to handle them yet, but here's how it should work...  Saboteurs will begin poisoning your citizens and inciting acts of violence about a month after they enter your map.  They will assume false identities.

Watchers will point out saboteurs, marking them with a name and driving them to attack anything nearby.  Since watchers are useless in combat, this means you'll need to have some sort of militia or war animal contingent with a watcher to "screen" incoming migrants...  like checking passports.  Watchers can point out a saboteur immediately - even before they start poisoning citizens.  The piercing gaze of a watcher reveals the dark intention to commit treason in even the most secretive of hearts without fail.

Because saboteurs work using a curse interaction and a transformation, they are a sub-caste of dwarf.  That being said, it is technically possible for a dwarf to be born a saboteur and begin poisoning other dwarves a month after its birth - however, this is so absurdly rare that it shouldn't ever become a significant issue.  Assuming that pop ratio tokens are working as I have intended, the odds of a dwarf being born a saboteur are roughly one in a quarter million.

Playing this mod and learning how to make a functioning fortress at the same time.

I figured it'd be fun.

That's pretty much what I did. Usually it all goes great... Until everything goes horribly, horribly wrong. So just like vanilla DF for me.

Precisely! And this mod has *More* ways for it to all go terribly wrong!

I'm just waiting until the voidwalkers take notice of one of more forts.

Because of the new ritual units being added in 0.16, voidwalkers will be getting their first basic spellcasters ("mistshrouds"), lizardmen will be getting short-range rock slings, and nephilim will be getting the ability to buff each other.  With all of this on top of weather, secrets, and curses, things are about to get much more interesting.

[Imp]

Assuming that pop ratio tokens are working as I have intended, the odds of a dwarf being born a saboteur are roughly one in a quarter million.

Egads, I hope very few Easter Eggs are -that- rare.  This chance seems entirely acceptable to me (besides, we can always have a 'passport station' somewhere near our meetinghalls and main traffic stations; newboteurs could be pointed out in time to mebby save Mom if we wanted to try.



I've got quite a tale of woe to share, at least to me it's quite a tale of woe.  It involves Emberlights, undead sieges, and the sneakiest kobolds ever...  As well as far more savescumming than I'd usually want to use, but Embers are new to me....  It's longer than most tales so throwing in a spoiler.

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So my pop limit's set to 150; despite that I kept getting more and more migrant waves (though smaller ones) until my pop was nearly 200.  FPS sitting around 100 most of the time, so the more dwarves the merrier.  Unlike several of my recent games, this embark has MANY kids with their parents, and for whatever reason many of the 13 year old 'kids' are migrants with their families.... I -like- those, wait a year and put them to work, I've got plenty for unskilled hands.  Weird to be getting migrant waves when my pop's at 190, but dealable.

Was -so- worried about vamps moving in, I never even thought about how Emberlights (and Wavebreakers?  Haven't gotten any of those yet, alas) could appear too.  Weirdly, I didn't get any vamps in all my nearly 200 dwarves...

And then a mysterious kobold appeared deep inside my fortress.  Fort has one entrance, guarded by many, MANY layers of potential observers; trained warbeasts, workers running back and forth to tend farms, and even a 1x1 meeting hall filled with 90+ kids... there's one other entrance, a 'merchant gate' airlock-style path that's never open to both outside and fortress at the same time - and when it's open to the fortress it's already filled with merchants and their guards, not to mention a wall of dwarves hauling stuff - and hadn't been opened to the fort for 2 game months.

So miracle kobold gets in - and even is in deeper than my quantum stockpile with everything and all the artifacts too - what oh what was it looking for or how oh how did it get in?...  .... I'm not USED to mysteries like this....  Seal my fort and order dwarves to cut trees outside the fort, and they cant get there.... how oh how did this kobold get in...

Combat log lights up, and suddenly the kobold's flickering red.  Oddly, -it's- not on fire, it's shirt is.  Despite that oddity, it's body is yellowy-brown, and then my -cook- of all things turns out to be capable of cooking much more than I'd ever thought.  Hurling fireballs about as fast as combat actions normally progress... cruddy aim too, though there doesn't seem to be any splash effect or ignition of things the fireballs pass over.  Fortress prepares to fall in a blanket of flame; even though the fireballs are only setting the kobold on fire, there's stuff and dwarves and beasts everywhere, and very soon fire everywhere too.

Savescum;  A few more tries to figure out how to safely position my firey cook and the sad discovery that I have a -second- firebug in the fortress too; alright, fine, fine fine fine.... more savescums to understand fire better and then redesign of a complete 'beast wall' across the (mostly unused) main gate.... stay hidden friend kobold even as you crawl under the anklysaurs, thank you very much:  And a nearly 200 strong wave of undead walk up to ask to borrow some brains.

I did embark near a tower; this is clearly my fault...  I can easily seal them out but of course, I'd like to win.

Fire's a very traditional weapon against the undead, I've got two firebugs.  Fine;  I call in that wall of warbeasts, let the undead start to near the main gate before shutting it, and let the pitiful field of cage traps absorb what it can - then draft my two Emberlights and send them up onto the roof right overlooking the swarm from 3z up.

Aha!  Fire is envoked, fireballs fly, walking corpses start to burn and a brushfire starts to sweep outwards from my fortress; no problem there as all I want is safely inside a hastily fire-proofed bridge.  I watch the pretty flicker and clouds of smoke and wait to see the non-walking corpses pile up.

But they don't.  The ones caught in the brushfire are completely unharmed, they had no items to start with but even the ones who still have hair -still have hair-; no burns, no bloodloss, nothing.  The ones directly set alight by the firebugs are producing tons of smoke and are spraying blood from most remaining body parts, which are burned... and they keep spraying.  And keep spraying.  Little blood bags... err really quite larger than they look blood bags... ambulatory, flameproof huge bloodbags... but these corpses seem -very- far from dead again.

Even the ones that had been standing on the cage trap field when it went up in flames (alas for all the burned traps, whaa!)... even the ones that had been IN the traps when the traps burned away are apparently fine; at least my dead/missing list doesn't list a single corpse corpse.

Man I'd really believed that fire would be a perfect weapon in this case.  Who knew undead are also the beloved of Zalkor and he protects them from his servants' wrath?

[astianax]

i'm already looking forward to your new weather types. as i've mentioned many times before, i like straddling good, evil, and savage biomes when possible (and it'll be even more fun when toady's update hits, too, and we get good/evil plants and trees back!) so, should get a fun mix of things in my embarks. also, been doing a lot of alternating between desert and tundra embarks for some reason.

anyway, i tried to come up with some ideas for good rains, but nothing at all came to mind, really, which is sad. mostly because (at the time, at least) we couldn't use the weather to make dwarves happier or heal them and those were the two places  my mind kept going and not wanting to think anything more. very curious to see what else you'd managed to whip up


oh, and imp, emberlights get a high natural cooking skill, so may wanna double check any dwarf that shows up as a decent cook...it may be because they like burning everything they see. and, sadly, fire sucks against undead, as you discovered. people report them sitting happily at the bottom of pools of magma, burning for eternity. you may, however, want to start gridding your land like i mentioned before, to contain the spread of fires. unless, of course, you want the whole world to burn