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[Stirk]

After re-examining it, it appeared to have been caught in a web.

... For a really long time. Like, a month.

Your really quick to yell "GLITCH!" at things you have not tested, don't know anything about, and randomly find, aren't you?

[Putnam]

Well, it is an alpha version of the game. Weird shit happens. I had a creature with [SPEED:100000]. It moved at extremely fast speeds, but only about once every 5000 frames or so. It just sat in the meantime.

[Stirk]

Well, it is an alpha version of the game. Weird shit happens. I had a creature with [SPEED:100000]. It moved at extremely fast speeds, but only about once every 5000 frames or so. It just sat in the meantime.

Nothing happens in dwarf fortress without reason- The speed you put was extremely slow....

Here is the wiki, since you have helped me with it much before:

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Speed is a numerical indicator of how fast something moves with lower numbers being faster. This is the value used in the Creature token for SPEED, not the same value as that which appears on the screen as Speed in Adventure mode. (In the adventure mode speed stat, higher numbers are faster.)

    The way it works is that the game doesn't let most creatures act every single frame - an "average" creature acts only once every 10 frames. In order to achieve this, there is a delay on every action that a creature takes.

    Basically, the hundreds digit and higher represent whole turns that are skipped just filling up the waiting counter until it reaches the point of their "speed". "Speed" is a bit of a misnomer, actually, as it's really more "turn delay".

    This is why most creatures have 900 speed - they are delayed 9 turns before they get their 1 turn of action, and have to wait for their delay counter to fill up before taking their next action.

    A creature with 975 speed, meanwhile, (which is functionally where most dwarves fall, thanks to low agility) has to wait 9 turns, then rolls a random chance to see if it goes that turn or not - with a 75% chance of having to wait another turn.

    Agility acts as a multiplier on speed - if someone had only 400 speed/delay to begin with, and another creature had 900 speed/delay, then regardless of whether it was low or high agility, as long as they had the same amount of agility (and equipment), the 400 speed/delay creature would act twice as fast. A creature with 0 speed/delay has no benefit or penalty from agility at all. -- NW_Kohaku [1]

[Putnam]

I know it was extremely slow. The creature was a tree, and I couldn't have it be IMMOBILE because it has to breed. The fast moving part was the weird part--it would zip 30 tiles over the course of 100 frames, which is essentially a speed of 30.

[Stirk]

I know it was extremely slow. The creature was a tree, and I couldn't have it be IMMOBILE because it has to breed. The fast moving part was the weird part--it would zip 30 tiles over the course of 100 frames, which is essentially a speed of 30.

I had assumed you knew it-but I could think of a dozen things that need fast speed, but none that would need to be that slow. Why in the world did you need a breeding tree?

[Putnam]

http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-038

[Stirk]

Ah. For an apple tree that clones things. Thanks for clearing that up.

[katana]

I deployed a bronze spider. Or at least tried to.

Erm, I ended up with a lizard (at magma level...?) and a forbidden "head inspiration". Is this a failure or erm... I have no idea what it could be actually.

If it helps, halfway through the process, there was a creature spawned, but it had a burned brain and body, boiled body. So now there's just a random forbidden head inspiration (which seems to be the corpse of a creature, based on the fact that it's forbidden and I forbid corpses).

[Pan]

Hey Narhiril. I just thought, maybe you could add a small upgrade in one of the earlier levels of tech tree? A studded shield, so shield bashes are slightly more powerful. Maybe unlockable through the evaluate alchemical results reaction.

Also, I saw in one of the other mods where spider constructs can clean dwarves or something. That seems like a neat upgrade for one of the higher level spiders.

Never tried spiders yet, so I wouldnt know about katana's problem.

[narhiril]

Hey Narhiril. I just thought, maybe you could add a small upgrade in one of the earlier levels of tech tree? A studded shield, so shield bashes are slightly more powerful. Maybe unlockable through the evaluate alchemical results reaction.

Also, I saw in one of the other mods where spider constructs can clean dwarves or something. That seems like a neat upgrade for one of the higher level spiders.

Never tried spiders yet, so I wouldnt know about katana's problem.

Spiders are a really messy workaround to not being able to produce a creature in a reaction, so weird stuff comes up with them from time to time.  I apologize if it doesn't always work right - I find that it tends to work more often than not, though, and a lot of people wanted to see it implemented even though it's kind of a rube goldberg contraption in terms of scripting.

To give you an idea, the reaction works by transforming a dwarf into a custom creature called a "constructor," which has a limb connected to its body by connecting parts that are set to boil away at room temperature, throwing off the now-disconnected body part, which the constructor then re-animates and simultaneously transforms into a dwarven spider.  The result is one very confused dwarf who drops all of his clothes and/or equipment during the reaction, and (usually) a friendly spider loitering around the deployment hub.

The next update introduces the mantis, which is a different type of construct - instead of being created, it is a modification of an existing, breedable creature called a "slimer."  So to make a mantis, you'll just need to pen/pasture a slimer next to the workshop when a dwarf performs the reaction, with no intermediate transformation necessary.  It still relies on boiling stones, though, so it might not work 100% of the time.  The result, however, is a construct that can be penned/pastured.

[katana]

Mechanized spiders have screwed up all 4 of the times I've tried to create them (without a blessed dwarf, that's not the problem), I guess I'm just unlucky.
(late game spoilers, both vanilla and mod wise)

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Well, thanks to the wonders of fireproofing dwarves through blessings, I managed to conquer hell with minimal losses. Oh, and I may have created an army of super soldiers because they're now completely numb. More reports on the stuff down there coming up.

On demons of famine:


Is this intended? It was also perpetually webbed. It seems to be melting to death from fireballs, but very slowly.

EDIT: considering how easy it is to send it flying, it looks like there's a missing material or something in the raws.
EDIT2: This seems to also apply to wrath demons.

[Putnam]

I don't have access to a computer right now to just check, so a couple questions:

How long does the transformation to a constructor last?

do you use RESURRECT or ANIMATE for the spiders?

[Pan]

Alchemy still takes 10 stones, is this intended?

[katana]

Alchemy still takes 10 stones, is this intended?

No, that's a leftover from old versions where stones would drop on every dug tile. Just change it to 2-3 and it'll make more sense.

[Pan]

Katana are your spiders still not working? Cuz if not then in my current game I will not even go there.