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[ztyler]

I'm trying to create muskets into my game, and would like some help.
Here's what I have

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[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MUSKET]
[NAME:musket:muskets]
[SIZE:400]
[SKILL:SWORD]
[RANGED:MUSKET:ROUND]
[SHOOT_FORCE:1000]
[SHOOT_MAXVEL:1000]
[TWO_HANDED:0]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:15000]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]
[ATTACK:BLUNT:10000:4000:bash:bashes:stock:1250]
[ATTACK:EDGE:20:12000:stab:stabs:NO_SUB:1000]How much should I increase (or not) the MAXVEL and FORCE to replicate an actual musket?
And for the ammo

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[ITEM_AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_ROUND]
[NAME:round:rounds]
[CLASS:ROUND]
[SIZE:5]I dont know what to put for the attack. Should it be stab or what?

And one last question,
Is there any way possible to make these creatable in Fortress Mode?
Thanks,
Ztyler

[GreatWyrmGold]

Dunno about making it likea real-world musket's shot.
Stab if youwant it to come with a bayonet, like many did IRL IIRC. Otherwise, a bash.
Just add [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MUSKET] and [AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_ROUND] or something like that to [ENTITY:MOUNTAIN] in entity_default.txt.

[SirAaronIII]

For a realistic shot, you want a very high speed with a small contact area. Too much speed can make the game bug out, though. Your current numbers look fine to me.

[Necro910]

For a realistic shot, you want a very high speed with a small contact area. Too much speed can make the game bug out, though. Your current numbers look fine to me.

And don't forget to make the round extremely small! Other wise it will be more of a cannon than a 9mm diameter 

[SirAaronIII]

Well, maybe it's a hand cannon. That way, you can have big shots from a portable gun.

[_DivideByZero_]

Do realize, though, that fire rate is determined by skill, as well as by the time it takes for the bolt to hit something. Only one shot can exist at a time, so a high speed will actually make it fire faster than a crossbow.

[Necro910]

Do realize, though, that fire rate is determined by skill, as well as by the time it takes for the bolt to hit something. Only one shot can exist at a time, so a high speed will actually make it fire faster than a crossbow.

So it should probably have a low velocity and a uber high force?

[Seriyu]

Out of curiosity, when do things start to bug out for the speed value?

[ztyler]

Muskets aren't really 9mm. It was a half-inch diameter ball of death. The equivalent of today's .50cal.
Oh and here's my updated code

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[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MUSKET]
[NAME:musket:muskets]
[SIZE:400]
[SKILL:SWORD]
[RANGED:MUSKET:ROUND]
[SHOOT_FORCE:7000]
[SHOOT_MAXVEL:5000]
[TWO_HANDED:0]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:15000]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]
[ATTACK:EDGE:20:12000:stab:stabs:bayonet:1000]
[ATTACK:BLUNT:50:4000:bash:bashes:stock:1250]I increased both because whenever I tested it in arena mode, all it was doing was bruising things. This causes it to tear and break things, like a real musket.(Im going more for the civil war era musket)
And the ammo

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[ITEM_AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_ROUND]
[NAME:round:rounds]
[CLASS:ROUND]
[SIZE:5]
[ATTACK:EDGE:5:30000:hit:hits:NO_SUB:1000]Also increased penetration because again, it was only bruising things.

(edit) Oh, and is there anyway to have something shoot multiple rounds? Kinda like a shotgun.

[Necro910]

(edit) Oh, and is there anyway to have something shoot multiple rounds? Kinda like a shotgun.

No.

Why? Because I iz sad.

[Nikov]

Muskets aren't really 9mm. It was a half-inch diameter ball of death. The equivalent of today's .50cal.

I would rage but for the grace of God.

While run-of-the-mill rifled muskets of the 1800's were about .68 caliber bore, it is important to note that did not make them equal, either objectively in constant terms or subjectively in light of the time period, to the modern .50 caliber Browning Machine Gun round. I'm fairly sure you know that, but its worth stressing that a musket ball which would struggle to penetrate a steel cuirass or a wooden palisade cannot be compared to a round producing 15,000 foot-pounds of energy on impact.

You should probably use the spear skill and have the round do blunt damage. That will make it preferable to use lead bullets.

[ztyler]

   

Muskets aren't really 9mm. It was a half-inch diameter ball of death. The equivalent of today's .50cal.

I would rage but for the grace of God.

While run-of-the-mill rifled muskets of the 1800's were about .68 caliber bore, it is important to note that did not make them equal, either objectively in constant terms or subjectively in light of the time period, to the modern .50 caliber Browning Machine Gun round. I'm fairly sure you know that, but its worth stressing that a musket ball which would struggle to penetrate a steel cuirass or a wooden palisade cannot be compared to a round producing 15,000 foot-pounds of energy on impact.

I know, I was talking about size, but thanks for clarifying that. Sorry I didn't specify. 
But anyways, I took Nikov's advice. (He seems to know about this stuff)

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[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MUSKET]
[NAME:musket:muskets]
[SIZE:400]
[SKILL:SPEAR]
[RANGED:MUSKET:ROUND]
[SHOOT_FORCE:7000]
[SHOOT_MAXVEL:5000]
[TWO_HANDED:0]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:15000]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]
[ATTACK:EDGE:20:12000:stab:stabs:bayonet:1000]
[ATTACK:BLUNT:50:4000:bash:bashes:stock:1250]

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[ITEM_AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_ROUND]
[NAME:round:rounds]
[CLASS:ROUND]
[SIZE:5]
[ATTACK:BLUNT:5:30000:hit:hits:NO_SUB:1000]

[wolflance]

Just askin'
With blunt damage, can musket still pierce armor and lodge into wound?

[Deon]

Making them blunt though won't allow them to get through organs as well as edged attacks. It all depends on the wounding effect you want to achieve.

[narhiril]

I'm pretty sure you can't use "MUSKET" as a skill though.  Skills are hardcoded, aren't they?