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33c, adventure mode guard transformation
« on: February 29, 2008, 05:53:00 pm »

I made a post about it in the adventure mode forum because I wasn't sure if it was a bug, but I'm thinking it is.  I haven't been able to replicate it, but it certainly is interesting:

Basically, here's what happened without the storytelling:

I stole a sword and ran out of town, but a guard aggro'd me and pursued, he was in combat enemy mode, because I couldn't talk to him

I stopped and hit him with my sword, which embedded in his hip. It definitely said "You hack at A GUARD with blah blah blah". I stepped back, and lost the sword.  

As I go to grab it and continue the fight, I see "The MACEMAN has removed the sword and dropped it"

He was a guard just seconds before ...

So I grab the sword and go to fight, but he's not fighting me.  

So I hit k, talk to him, and he's all chatty, and agree's to join my party as an adventurer.  I'm still listed as a criminal in the town, and other guards wouldn't talk to me.


Is this a bug or an easter egg, Commander Toadlington?


Here is the other thread:
http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=12&t=000467

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Re: 33c, adventure mode guard transformation
« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2008, 05:56:00 pm »

He must have gotten enough skill to become a Maceman. No bug at all.
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Re: 33c, adventure mode guard transformation
« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2008, 05:56:00 pm »

Hmm, maybe the Guard became an enemy of his own country, and got dropped of the Guard tag, and went back to his original class as a maceman. Either way, I dont see how this would happen naturally within the game. Sounds like a bug, but without specifics, it'd be hard to replicate.
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Re: 33c, adventure mode guard transformation
« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2008, 05:58:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Helmaroc:
<STRONG>He must have gotten enough skill to become a Maceman. No bug at all.</STRONG>

Also, the Guard tag doesnt get taken away with a gain in skill. You can see this with Fort/Royal guards in fort mode, they gain skill, but never get changed from Guards unless you say so. That wouldnt explain the Fighting stopping, either.

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Re: 33c, adventure mode guard transformation
« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2008, 05:58:00 pm »

While his transformation isn't a bug, the fact that he's willing to talk to you is.
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Re: 33c, adventure mode guard transformation
« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2008, 06:39:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Torak:
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Also, the Guard tag doesnt get taken away with a gain in skill. You can see this with Fort/Royal guards in fort mode, they gain skill, but never get changed from Guards unless you say so. That wouldnt explain the Fighting stopping, either.</STRONG>


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Re: 33c, adventure mode guard transformation
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2008, 12:43:00 am »

Yeah, the guard getting stripped of his entity links makes the most sense, but I don't see how that transition would occur at that point even it the other prereqs were in place, since it wasn't the guard attacking.
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Re: 33c, adventure mode guard transformation
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2008, 02:37:00 am »

that's too complicated for me to understand =/

also, i just noticed i made the thread title 33c instead of 38c ... whoops.  brain is stuck in the past!  this definitely occurred in 38c.  

as for the guard/maceman, personally, i think it's kinda neat.  like robin hood besting little john, etc =)

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Re: 33c, adventure mode guard transformation
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2008, 08:05:00 am »

I think it had to do with a stolen sword being stuck in his body, which he removed (which usually involves hand operation). He owned it (for however a brief time) outside of the shop that it belonged to, and the game has tagged him as a thief and stripped him of the title.
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Re: 33c, adventure mode guard transformation
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2008, 12:50:00 pm »

Well that's cool,  :p.

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Re: 33c, adventure mode guard transformation
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2008, 09:26:00 pm »

Ah, yeah, I didn't notice the $$ around the weapon because of the tileset mod.  That would do it. (and I didn't read the OP fully)

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Re: 33c, adventure mode guard transformation
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2008, 10:52:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Toady One:
<STRONG>(and I didn't read the OP fully)</STRONG>

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