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[Brutalized]

There's a competition on mnb.net right now called Vive la France. Feel free to participate!

Lets have another competition folks. A new member wants to take the ruff road by trying himself at this challenge.

A new profile > to the regs you deploy only Frenchys (as many as you like). > last at least 50 waves or so.
That seams to me as a mission impossible even for you (Brutalized)  but it would be awesome if it could be done.
A new challenges been born.

And accepted. I've been playing MnB2 on and off for a while, but have only just created a forum account to put my acceptance of Lance's Frenchie challenge in writing. On that note, I must ask ... Am I allowed to use defenses ? Or medics, for that matter?

Nope. As stated. But in order to give players a bit of a fairer chance and to make this a true Frenchy Fight you can use your regular profile and any deploy you want.
Only rule. You must deploy only Frenchys and retreat any other unit. A crate solder may stay but it would be nice if you would get a Officer to bring him home because this time its a Homelanders fight.
A picture (screen-shot) of wave 10 and every other 10th wave would be nice. End pic included please.
Be fair and do not cheat . Simply give it your best shot(s) and most of all have fun.

I will try to submit my try out as soon as possible.

UPDATE! please read before submitting your challenge.

To balance this challenge a bit more the player may keep one Officer on the field but therefore must send all crate solders away.

This works best with Close Protection Deployment and having all basic ribbons. Free Officer, Moral+, Rifle+, ect.

Since a picture of each 10 waves is a bit redundant it will be enough to post one at around wave 10 and then all that seam interesting.
A last wave pic would also be nice. Most of all. Have fun and URB ON !

Good luck, all! The current high score is wave 111, by Lance.

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/2467/frenchychallengenr2w111.jpg

[Geen]

This game is awesomely hard. DAMN THOSE WESPES!

[dogstile]

Eh, that challenge doesn't seem like its worth it as a single tank will fuck everyone up.

[Burnt Pies]

I make wave 100 on 75% of my games currently, and that means surviving 10-15 tanks. Well placed Bazookas, high skilled chaps with rifle 'nades and (eventully) a Tank of your own will usually beat down a German Tank with no problem.

[Blaze]

I make wave 100 on 75% of my games currently, and that means surviving 10-15 tanks. Well placed Bazookas, high skilled chaps with rifle 'nades and (eventully) a Tank of your own will usually beat down a German Tank with no problem.

The Frenchie challenge means you only get to use Frenchies. No AT guns, Tanks, Zooks, and with no Arty/B-Drop (No signaller) unless you're lucky enough to get a soldier crate drop. So the only way to beat a tank in this manner is with Rifle Grenades, which have minimal anti-tank capability (unless this was changed in the newer version). Combined with the buff to vehicles and the Frenchies' less than ideal accuracy, one tank really will mess you up.

Plus, no engineers mean no camnets, so you're stuck with 6 soldiers total unless you want the poo-poo bombed out of you.

[Brutalized]

Eh, that challenge doesn't seem like its worth it as a single tank will fuck everyone up.

Hence, challenge.

I make wave 100 on 75% of my games currently, and that means surviving 10-15 tanks. Well placed Bazookas, high skilled chaps with rifle 'nades and (eventully) a Tank of your own will usually beat down a German Tank with no problem.

The Frenchie challenge means you only get to use Frenchies. No AT guns, Tanks, Zooks, and with no Arty/B-Drop (No signaller) unless you're lucky enough to get a soldier crate drop. So the only way to beat a tank in this manner is with Rifle Grenades, which have minimal anti-tank capability (unless this was changed in the newer version). Combined with the buff to vehicles and the Frenchies' less than ideal accuracy, one tank really will mess you up.

Plus, no engineers mean no camnets, so you're stuck with 6 soldiers total unless you want the poo-poo bombed out of you.

Nope, no signalers at all. All crate soldiers are to be retreated. 

[dogstile]

That's not a challenge. That's pure luck. Challenge is surviving for as long as you can without using machine guns while moving up at least once every 10 waves or some such example rather than just hoping the RNG doesn't bend you over before wave 50.

[Brutalized]

That's not a challenge. That's pure luck. Challenge is surviving for as long as you can without using machine guns while moving up at least once every 10 waves or some such example rather than just hoping the RNG doesn't bend you over before wave 50.

This whole game is pure luck. Your argument is invalid.

[Robsoie]

Pure luck is indeed exactly what the game is about.

Played one that got my troops annihilated at wave 40 with some "unfair event" and blitz waves.

Then the game i played following this disaster had me actually beat my own record : wave 190 !

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

As i'm Lt. Colonel, i always use the Close Protection gametype that gives me 12 points to build my squad, helped by having an officer thanks to the Wespoint ribbon.
So i got immediately 3 machinegunner that i sent to roughly the middle of the screen.
Once 4 points reached, bought an engineer and once 5 points, built the bunker with the 3 machinegunner inside.

Then after 2 points, built a trench in the bunker to help the machinegunner.

After that, 5 points waiting and built a camo net on the bottom right of the screen.
Started then to wait and buy bazooka soldiers each new 4 points.

Each time i had 2 bazooka in a camo net, i built a mortar pit for them, then moved to build another camo net and continnue the process.

Luck is very needed and i had plenty in this game as lot of crates fell near my MG troops (and getting the crates with the MG guys gave them experience more quickly than simply waiting for them to kill, gave additional points and even lowered the amount of attackers)

The MG are plain awesome once they get a few ranks, and 3 ranked MG in a bunker are simply killing machines, they were a big reason of why i could last that long.

Sometime a lucky enemy strike destroyed a camo net, i had to rebuild, and thanks to the numerous bazookas i managed to hold against tons of vehicles and some blitz waves.
Can't even imagine how it would have even be possible past wave 100 without that much bazookas (i read that they don't fire anymore in current non-downloadable version ! good i wasn't playing it with 2.2.7 then, would never have made it past wave 100).

Unfortunately in the end i was losing more troops than i was gaining points to rebuild.

At the peak of my perimeter defense here was what it looked like :


At wave 190, when all was going to be lost :


Debriefing :


got a few ribbons from that specific game.
Good that it's possible to pause the game with the space key, it was way too long for me to deal with in only one sitting, but i think it would be nice to be able to save a non-yet completed game, as it can take a long time.

[Brutalized]

If anyone needs a good strategy for version 2.3, try my new one, linked here: http://www.mudandblood.net/wiki/index.php?title=SuperBrute%27s_Strategy

So far, my highest wave with this strategy is 1,033. Good luck!



Any feedback is appreciated, suggestions, comments, anything. 

[Burnt Pies]

...Reading comprehension fail. Sorry. Didn't realise that was a response to the Challenge.

[dogstile]

That's not a challenge. That's pure luck. Challenge is surviving for as long as you can without using machine guns while moving up at least once every 10 waves or some such example rather than just hoping the RNG doesn't bend you over before wave 50.

This whole game is pure luck. Your argument is invalid.

Fine, correction.

This is even less relying on skill because the second the game spawns a tank you have absolutely zero chance of surviving. With unfair events you usually have a decent chance at surviving depending on where you move your troops. Doesn't matter either way with a tank.

Understand my point now? (without trying to sound aggressive, noticed it came out that way if you read it in an angry tone)

[Brutalized]

That's not a challenge. That's pure luck. Challenge is surviving for as long as you can without using machine guns while moving up at least once every 10 waves or some such example rather than just hoping the RNG doesn't bend you over before wave 50.

This whole game is pure luck. Your argument is invalid.

Fine, correction.

This is even less relying on skill because the second the game spawns a tank you have absolutely zero chance of surviving. With unfair events you usually have a decent chance at surviving depending on where you move your troops. Doesn't matter either way with a tank.

Understand my point now? (without trying to sound aggressive, noticed it came out that way if you read it in an angry tone)

No worries. I think there are a few ways you can prevent a tank wiping out your squad, although its more of a risk management thing.

You can keep a group of high exp frenchies somewhere on the map, and have a couple 0 exp frenchies on the top to absorb tank fire. You'll need to advance to get rid of the tank though. It all comes down to placement, and the exp distribution of your squad.

I understand where you're coming from though, as there are some situations where its just downright impossible, take for example my last try at the challenge. Its more of a "do as much as you can to keep your squad alive, then just pray your ass off."

[Blaze]

You *can* try sending a Frenchie for sabotage, but that requires two Frenchies with minimum 30 XP, one to function as an NCO and another to send forward.

Of course, actually surviving to the point where you can do that is another thing entirely.

[dogstile]

Aye, I remembered once I woke up (funny how these things happen) that I did have a game where i narrowly avoided a wespe by killing everyone around it and running past it. I'm a tad more open to the challenge now i've thought of a way to get past the tanks.