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[Max White]

Should this be here or creative? Hmm, throw it up here.

There is always a free version of something somewhere that will do what you want, always, and I need them right now!
Hello folks, I need to help to get the following two programs.
1. A graphics program that supports animated gifs. Right now I'm using graphics gale community edition, and it kicks ass for single pixel art images, but it doesn't support the .gif type unless you upgrade. Is their any free program out there to let me make animations?
2. A music composing program, preferably something built to compose 8 or 16 bit music without needing audio input.

I would like to go without resorting to piracy.

[3]

A slightly impractical alternative would be to save each frame as a separate image and string them together in VirtualDub or somesuch. You shouldn't have problems comparing individual frames if whatever you're using for the image creation itself has layer support.

[Max White]

It has layer support, why it even has frame support! It just will not let you save as a .gif, or any video format, only single frames. Although it does have a preview feature so you can even view your unsaveable animation. It's their business model to try and make you upgrade to the one that costs money.

So that seems like a plausible option.

[ein]

GIMP is really good for gifs.
Really good.

As for the music, check out pxtone.
It's what a lot of indie devs use.
It's also super awesome.

[Max White]

GIMP does .gif?
YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Also, thanks for the heads up on pxtone. I shall look into it!

~It's friday, friday!

EDIT:
In return for helpfulness, allow me to share a half finished frame I intent to use in an animation. Be done with it soon, but meh.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[ein]

Yeah, it's pretty dumb.
Photoshop, in all its bloated fancifulness is super hard to use for gifs.
Save as a gif?
Okay, done.
Wait, but it's not animated! D:
Do it in Gimp:
Save as a gif?
Do you want it animated or flattened?

As for pxtone, what's nice about it is the way you can plug in samples and such.
I have a folder that's full of guitar samples and such.
Dig around here for stuff.

[nenjin]

GIMP. Audacity.

Done!

[ein]

Audacity's not compositional software, bro.

[Max White]

Yea, I found that one out for myself a while ago.

[nenjin]

Audacity's not compositional software, bro.

Oh right. And I see you already mentioned Pxtone.

So.

Done! Pxtone is a hell of a lot of fun to play with, and if you stick with it, you can easily make compositions up to the level of old NES and SNES games. I still need to go find a huge library of samples to add in.

[SHAD0Wdump]

Audacity's not compositional software, bro.

I still theorize that it can be used for such though... Just wouldn't be practical compared to other options.

[Max White]

In theory you could compile the frames for an animation in notepad, assuming you understood how the data that represents characters would translate into representing pixels... But not practical at all.

[quinnr]

I like LMMS for music composition...it's freeware. Not made specially for 8bit music but emulating the style shouldn't be too hard.