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Re: How did you last *own*?
« Reply #9795 on: April 12, 2020, 02:42:04 pm »

So I did end up dying without reaching my goal but it was because I was dumb and greedy not because the build failed so I wanna put this here.

What build you might ask? Well, the Forest Gump of course. Why call it that? Because it's dumb and likes to run a lot, obviously.

It all starts with the Little Helper boss item which is fairly rare and usually can't be obtained before stage 3 atleast, luckily I have the Artifact of Command which lets me pick any boss type item if a boss happens to drop an item (usually they're boss specific and Grove Tender doesn't spawn before zone 3). Now, Little Helper seems fairly ok, firing a homing wisp that deals 100% of your base damage every half a second while you're sprinting. Where it gets juicy of course is the fact that for all practical purposes it counts as your default attack hitting. This of course lets it proc every on hit effect, from bleeds, triggering ATG launchers, chain lightning, healing and crits for good measure. Now even if you get it early, stacking it is fairly hard and pointless since it only adds damage and doesn't increase the fire-rate which would be the best thing for us, but we don't really need to stack it if pretty much every other proc item makes it stronger, so instead we stack those and we stack any defense that we want, particularly of interest is the Rose Buckler which gives us a hefty damage reduction while sprinting. Oh and of course we stack movespeed, because nothing beats not getting hit in the first place.

Past a certain point I stopped using both my item and my regular abilities and just ran trough the levels murdering everything in my way, grabbing all of the items and then activating the gate, running circles around the multiple spawned bosses until they dropped dead from the sheer amount of bullshit chaining off of the little wisps, in the process more than doubling my effective hp pool thanks to various items that grant shields on kill or when you get healed over your max amount. It was glorious.

I then decided to stop and pick up a white item while in the middle of a pack of Alloy Vultures which proceeded to oneshot me the instant I stopped moving :V
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Re: How did you last *own*?
« Reply #9796 on: April 12, 2020, 03:34:52 pm »

Past a certain point I stopped using both my item and my regular abilities and just ran trough the levels murdering everything in my way, grabbing all of the items and then activating the gate, running circles around the multiple spawned bosses until they dropped dead from the sheer amount of bullshit chaining off of the little wisps, in the process more than doubling my effective hp pool thanks to various items that grant shields on kill or when you get healed over your max amount.

This sounds like a build to play with Huntress+Strides of Heresy and Gesture of the Downed+whatever.

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Re: How did you last *own*?
« Reply #9797 on: April 12, 2020, 04:08:11 pm »

Hah, totally forgot to list the game there, thanks :D

Also does Strides even work? Not sure it counts as sprinting even if it does let you move around quite effectively. Also wasn't playing huntress but commando, mostly to get a mission done for him, still haven't managed to do the 20 stages in one run part :V
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Re: How did you last *own*?
« Reply #9798 on: April 12, 2020, 05:20:46 pm »

Hah, totally forgot to list the game there, thanks :D

Also does Strides even work? Not sure it counts as sprinting even if it does let you move around quite effectively. Also wasn't playing huntress but commando, mostly to get a mission done for him, still haven't managed to do the 20 stages in one run part :V

The reason why I say Huntress is that she's the the only one, far as I know, that can directly attack while sprinting.

Haven't tried it yet, but I'll report when I do-- died on the third loop without having gotten a boss drop yet. Doubly annoying since I was extremely well prepped for it.

And I died a second time, prepped for it, without being able to pull a boss item. And it was a really stupid death: Suffocated to death in the Hidden Stage, after getting knocked off a ledge.

Edit: Whoops, accidentally erased part of that quote tag. Also, if anybody still needs Pristmatically Aligned/Harvester's Scythe, today's a really easy day to do it. There's even a guaranteed lunar coin spawn.

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Also wasn't playing huntress but commando, mostly to get a mission done for him, still haven't managed to do the 20 stages in one run part :V

Try using Artifact of Command and Artifact of Sacrifice. Take whatever you want to start off, then go all-in on Tougher Times and Fuel Cells once your offensive kit is good... at around 20 Fuel Cells, your CD is shorter than its animation, so you can fire it constantly. Which REALLY makes me wish I had Gesture of the Drowned unlocked. Around L35 I died to a Void Reaper's implosion because I couldn't be bothered to move and I failed a 93% block rate. Whoops. XD

The reason why you want Artifact of Sacrifice is that it actually makes things way easier-- At first, you lose chests, but you also won't be wasting time hunting for chests or spending money on them, which means the battles will be that much easier and you can buy more drones. Later on, you get a lot more items dropping... And more importantly, all those extra drops you can turn into legendaries at the bazaar. (Artifact of Command works on the upgrade pool, and going there shouldn't violate the Commando's unlock conduct.)
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Re: How did you last *own*?
« Reply #9799 on: April 14, 2020, 12:27:34 am »

I beat Ultima 7 Part 1! I neglected to do the Forge of Virtue however... Oops.

It was a game of weird polar opposites. Mind-numbing and tedious combat built into a rich immersive simulation, many years before games like Thief and Deus Ex would codify the concept. A rich world full of unique, interesting NPCs in the retcon-happy world of Ultima. A technical marvel that occasionally flies apart at the seams or collapses under its own weight.

I'm extremely glad to have played it, but its flaws run so deep to the core that you couldn't fix them without making a completely different game in the process.
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Re: How did you last *own*?
« Reply #9800 on: April 14, 2020, 07:42:13 am »

A technical marvel that occasionally flies apart at the seams or collapses under its own weight.

I'm extremely glad to have played it, but its flaws run so deep to the core that you couldn't fix them without making a completely different game in the process.

That reminds me of them talking about the wildlife system they built into Ultima Online, that never got noticed. Apparently, animals grazed on grass, which would increase their populations, which would attract predators. It was a decent amount of effort to implement, but it was also an interesting system, until players were introduced to the game. Players always killed all of the wildlife, so the system never had any animals to interact with.
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Re: How did you last *own*?
« Reply #9801 on: April 14, 2020, 08:41:26 am »

A technical marvel that occasionally flies apart at the seams or collapses under its own weight.

I'm extremely glad to have played it, but its flaws run so deep to the core that you couldn't fix them without making a completely different game in the process.

That reminds me of them talking about the wildlife system they built into Ultima Online, that never got noticed. Apparently, animals grazed on grass, which would increase their populations, which would attract predators. It was a decent amount of effort to implement, but it was also an interesting system, until players were introduced to the game. Players always killed all of the wildlife, so the system never had any animals to interact with.
Aye, that was interesting. I found some details here:

https://www.raphkoster.com/2006/06/03/uos-resource-system/
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Re: How did you last *own*?
« Reply #9802 on: April 14, 2020, 12:13:17 pm »

I think part of the problem was that they were expecting a MUD-sized user base, then surpassed that expectation a few times over before the game was even done with its open beta.
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Re: How did you last *own*?
« Reply #9803 on: April 14, 2020, 01:09:22 pm »

I'm doing an escalation mission in Hitman 2 (the one in Italy). It has 5 playthroughs, with increasing difficulty.

First step was killing a guy with a sniper rifle, so I choose to start in the apartment with a sniper rifle stashed in the apartment. I can see the target poking his head up from the balcony where I start, so I finish the mission in about 60 seconds.
Second step added another guy. I do the same thing, run through my apartment to a rooftop (planning to leave the building, but I went the wrong way), saw the second guy, and capped him, which knocks him into the water. Being on the rooftop meant I had to take another path to the nearest exit, which happened to be a boat right next to where the second target had been. Took just over 2 minutes.
Third step was that I could only leave through using the boat from last time. No changes to my playthrough, which got me down below 2 minutes.
Fourth step said some of the previous objectives have changed, but I didn't notice anything. 1:34.
Fifth step is to take no more than 30 seconds between kills. Most of my run has been getting to the exit. I think I can handle this.

I guess I accidentally picked the best possible starting location, and got an easy completion.

Edit: 1:26, and ten seconds between targets, and that was only because I was making sure to watch the countdown so I knew exactly how many seconds it took. I'm also ranked #7380 out of 15380, which is exceptionally good for me.
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Re: How did you last *own*?
« Reply #9804 on: April 17, 2020, 04:58:30 pm »

Opened a blast door leading to a huge stockpile of advanced weapons for the Brotherhood Outcasts in exchange for, to paraphrase, "whatever I wanted from the pile". When the Outcast Defenders decided that no, I shouldn't be allowed to have anything, and instead I and their commanding officer deserved nothing but the full belt of a minigun to the face, I took action. I shut the door to the stockpile, leaving Specialist Olin inside and out of danger, put on the Power Armor I picked up from inside, and drew my combat shotgun.

A neat fact about shotguns, if you don't use VATS to fire, every individual pellet rolls for a critical hit. I have decent Luck and the Finesse perk, so I've got a fairly high crit rate. Which certainly helps when unloading into a Power Armor Helmet. I took minimal damage, and had a hallway full of dead Outcasts. Protector McGraw survived with the tiniest sliver of health left. Specialist Olin was of course mostly unharmed as the fight didn't last long enough for her to open the door and get involved.

As for "whatever I wanted from the pile", it turned out to be pretty much the entire pile, including coincidentally a few suits of Outcast Power Armor... which I needed the Strength bonus from to speed along hauling everything out of there back home to Megaton. That took a while still. (the Winterized T-51B doesn't have a Strength bonus, but the helmet has a Charisma bonus) Also, grabbed a lot of turpentine.

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Re: How did you last *own*?
« Reply #9805 on: April 17, 2020, 06:24:11 pm »

Something must be up with the undead in 47.01, because I just one-shotted a zombie. As a completely normal non-vamp non-husk/thrall with extremely little training. Just decapitated it. Then I did the same thing to four more zombies.

But, hey, undead, so I'm definitely counting this as an own.

Of course, pride goeth before a fall, and this is DF...

EDIT: yep, intelligent undead are as challenging as expected. At least those with paralysis. Ouch.
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Re: How did you last *own*?
« Reply #9806 on: April 18, 2020, 08:20:44 am »

I remember when you there was enough glitchiness in to chain up undead after you cage them . . .

The liaison would always seem to find the undead and get mauled by them.  Even undead birds would beat an untrained liaison.
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Re: How did you last *own*?
« Reply #9807 on: April 18, 2020, 01:20:46 pm »

I beat Knights of the Old Republic as a light-side space wizard (Scout 2/Consular 18). Even with a fairly min-maxed character, it took some effort to get force powers to affect the boss. I love it when a boss actually puts up a good fight, and if they ever make another KOTOR game, hopefully that boss will also be entertaining.
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Re: How did you last *own*?
« Reply #9808 on: April 18, 2020, 04:47:57 pm »

How the piss did you survive with a level 2 character through Taris?

Did you beat Bendak?
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Re: How did you last *own*?
« Reply #9809 on: April 18, 2020, 08:09:37 pm »

How the piss did you survive with a level 2 character through Taris?

Did you beat Bendak?

Of course I beat Bendak. He has a very good blaster, which is useful until anyone at all has a lightsaber (mostly, the rest of Taris). I beat him with grenades. Stun, damage, damage, stun, etc.
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