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[Hanslanda]

Met the Hunter for the first time. I don't think he even managed to hit anything. Two overwatch hits put him a dash away from my Templar, who coup de graced his punk ass.

XCOM 2 WOTC

[EnigmaticHat]

Now watch as the lord you just booted out runs off and somehow pulls 300 new troops out of a village that had just gotten raided the week before.

And by "new" you mean "At least 50 of them are 100% upgraded".

It's what happens when your recruiter goes out looking for applicants with 5 years experience fighting in a war that's only been going on for 3 years.

Nah that's how you leave soldier positions unfilled and have to make do with a temporary levy of interns.

[Rolan7]

I finally beat The Line (the yoda-like sensei with time powers) after a long break.  The final part wasn't too bad this time, I had just gotten sick of repeating the first stage.  The regen mechanic in this game is quite nice, though.

The Scale was quite visually impressive, including a bit of interface screw.  Interestingly, I was even getting video card glitches before the fight, cutting out and tearing, but that turned out to be a coincidence I guess.  All the water maybe.

I won on my first attempt, though I was downed several times.  I appreciate this game's regen-mechanic, it's sort of tug-of-war without sending you back (until you lose-lose).

The Hand was great in various ways.  Took me a few tries, even slept on it, but it wasn't at all frustrating.  Not like The Line.

This is a really good game, I'm okay with things (:
Furi

[Kagus]

For a moment I thought you were talking about Spec Ops: The Line. Had no idea what Time Yoda had to do with anything.

[Akura]

After seeing a video on it, I decided to try the absolute cheese strategy that is Russia+every wonder that boosts your attrition damage and national border.

As long as you have some fast attack troops - which is Russia's midgame unique unit by the way - to gank any supply wagons or leaders, your territory effectively becomes a massive radioactive hellhole the enemy cannot survive in for more than a few seconds. ...At least until everyone gets silos and starts tossing nukes around like hand grenades. Had to put a stop to that by spamming cruise missiles onto any missile silos I saw. Even then, the other Russian empire dropped a nuke on my library just seconds before Missile Shield was researched. I responded by removing their Versailles, and getting a Wonder victory.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Rise of Nations.

[Egan_BW]

I finally beat The Line (the yoda-like sensei with time powers) after a long break.  The final part wasn't too bad this time, I had just gotten sick of repeating the first stage.  The regen mechanic in this game is quite nice, though.

The Scale was quite visually impressive, including a bit of interface screw.  Interestingly, I was even getting video card glitches before the fight, cutting out and tearing, but that turned out to be a coincidence I guess.  All the water maybe.

I won on my first attempt, though I was downed several times.  I appreciate this game's regen-mechanic, it's sort of tug-of-war without sending you back (until you lose-lose).

The Hand was great in various ways.  Took me a few tries, even slept on it, but it wasn't at all frustrating.  Not like The Line.

This is a really good game, I'm okay with things (:
Furi

Dammit, I always have a LOT of trouble with the Scale. How can you beat him in one try o_o

[Rolan7]

Dammit, I always have a LOT of trouble with the Scale. How can you beat him in one try o_o

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1673743310

I have no idea, besides being stone sober and mad.
MAD ABOUT JAILORS

Really though I don't know.  I was down to one life twice, dodging.  I think maybe... dodging wasn't the key?  In that the healer-snake coiled attack was more tricksy than it was difficult.  Once you see its pattern (ha) it's not so hard to dodge.  Close might be better.

Defy their rules.  Rage against their borders!  The end is so near!

Edit on and on, I continue, circling: It might be a danmaku (touhou) instinct, where you have to read the pattern and find a safe spot.  I wouldn't presume, but I have played a lot of danmaku and you were relevantly weak at this part, that's the only reason I bring it up.

Edit2: I tried The Line at *least* a dozen times, easily two dozen.  I grew to hate the game and sorta-abandoned it, occasionally practicing against the strap and jailor.
Coming back after a long break helped.  But that's bad advice, isn't it?

Don't stand in the serpentine lines!!!

[Iduno]

After seeing a video on it, I decided to try the absolute cheese strategy that is Russia+every wonder that boosts your attrition damage and national border.

As long as you have some fast attack troops - which is Russia's midgame unique unit by the way - to gank any supply wagons or leaders, your territory effectively becomes a massive radioactive hellhole the enemy cannot survive in for more than a few seconds. ...At least until everyone gets silos and starts tossing nukes around like hand grenades. Had to put a stop to that by spamming cruise missiles onto any missile silos I saw. Even then, the other Russian empire dropped a nuke on my library just seconds before Missile Shield was researched. I responded by removing their Versailles, and getting a Wonder victory.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Rise of Nations.

That works? Awesome. I remember wanting to try that back when the game was new, but human players catch onto your cheese pretty quick and gang up on you.

[USEC_OFFICER]

He was playing against the AI. I think it's safe to say that a human could outperform an AI in this situation.

[Akura]

Pretty much. A few idea that I suppose could win here:

• Artillery, backed with supply wagons and anti-cavalry, and bring down border fortresses since those expand national borders.
• Building the Versailles, or being French(oh the irony), as they get better supply wagons.
• Building the wonders that boost attrition(Coliseum, Kremlin) just to deny the Russians.
  
• Building the Statue of Liberty is almost critical, since it negates all attrition damage for the owner. Russia will likely build it as a denial play.
• Air units, which as far as I know never suffer attrition as well.
• Missiles. Aim for libraries first to deny attempts at researching Missile Shield.

[EnigmaticHat]

I've always wondered: if played competitively, does every game of Rise of Nations result in the end of the world?  It seems to me that at least on a large map people will get to the point where they have nukes, and then once people start using nukes any player that's losing might as well just launch the 30th nuke and draw the game.

[Mathel]

That sounds  really MAD.!

[MCreeper]

Checked this thing out. Not sure if Rise of Nations is more ridicoulous than BFME2's war of the ring mode or not (both have strategic and tactics modes that barely influence each other, but RoN have tech research "on site". Age advancing, even! Which goes poof at the end of the battle), but it's sure as hell nearly as cramped and done lots better. =\

[Akura]

Pretty much crippled a Hard AI on a water map, by blowing up their shipyard then camping where they tried to rebuild it. For some reason they never thought to build it somewhere else. Bombarded their town with frigates and a ship-of-the-line for awhile, then remembered that the galley(long range bombardment ship) was a thing. Probably would have won a lot sooner had I remembered that earlier.

Instead, I landed a full formation of grenadiers whose only casualties in the slaughter that followed came from the fact that the throwing range of a 1700's-era hand grenade is not longer than the bursting range of a 1700's-era hand grenade. More specifically, the throwing range is not longer than the blast radius of a town hall, or mill, or thereabouts.

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Cossacks 3.

[Teneb]

I think I beat what might've been one of the hardest, if not the hardest, shooter level I ever played. Holy shit.

Spoiler: here's a post on the die thread (click to show/hide)

Well, I found my way to the third and final secret level, near the end of the game.

It is brutal.

Large dark room full of INVISIBLE Lv1 DRILLERS, which I should remind you ARE FUCKING HITSCAN. Oh, and said? Also has mine-layer drones, a rocket drone (it fires salvoes of 3 dumbfire missiles, and it does so fast) camping in one corner, a red hulk in another, Level 2 Drillers (who shoot plasma shots, ironically not as dangerous as mr Lv1 "say goodbye to 30 hp" Driller).

This is the first fucking room.

Descent 1


EDIT: I need to correct the above information. There are actually two red hulks PLUS a purple hulk who is basically a miniboss that takes 50 hp (out of a starting 100) with each shot.

EDIT 2: I finally cleared the damn room. I would like to amend that there are actually two of the purple buggers.

There were more minibosses liberally sprinkled through the damn level. I think it's the only level in the entire game so far where I literally said "fuck it" when it came to rescuing hostages. A ton of walls were just coated in spawners, which can spawn in a series of pre-set (for each individual spawner) robots, and can be literally anything that is not a boss or miniboss. The damn exit was covered in spawners and monster closets for maximum bullshit and bodyblocking during the escape sequence (it is timed)!


EDIT: I did it. I beat the damn game. The final boss was hard, but nowhere near the madness that was Secret Level 3. There's still the "Levels of the World" pack to go, but I am considering running Descent 2 instead and coming back for them later.