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Re: Riding a bike to work
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2011, 01:45:14 am »

Even if you aren't ready to commit to a purchase it would be wise to get on some bikes to see what is comfortable, etc.  Bike shop people tend to understand that; there is a lot to be sure of when you are buying a bike.

C'mon, make a wiener joke about that one too.
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Re: Riding a bike to work
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2011, 11:39:59 am »

if your worried about price, you can try looking at second hand bikes. In the UK, you can get very cheap bikes down at local tips, as lots of people buy bikes here and never use them.

If you go for a second hand bike test ride it, go through all the gears and make sure non of them skip, and check for rust and missing teeth on the spokes. Also make sure there are no kinks in the chain.


you will need some decent chain oil, and when using your bike dry it and reoil it when ever you have been riding in the wet. Expect to have to clean the bike about once a fortnight in winter. You will probably need spaire inner tubes and pair of tyre levers to get the tyres on and off.

6 miles is a relativly short distance (i sometimes do 50+ mile journeys). Over this distance i dont think the type of bike you get matters too much, a commuter, racing or mountain will vary in speed abit but its not a big issue imo. The most important thing is build quality. Shimano make good cheap gear/cassettes, and break sets, so look out for them.

the bike you posted looks alright, but a bit pricey for what it is to me. Try and get a bike thats the right size for you, if you got to a bike shop they should set it up for you. Ideally when your on the saddle you should have to be on tip toes or lean to the side to get your foot on the ground. When peddeling you leg should by fully extended at the bottom of the peddle.
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Re: Riding a bike to work
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2011, 03:26:32 pm »

I used to ride 10 miles to work a few years back, so I can throw in a few more points:

-You might not want to wear the typical bike pants, but there are alternatives that you can wear underneath your shorts. Now, this is actually quite important, if you're going to ride your bike regularly and in a hot weather, as you don't want any uninvited fungal guests to settle in your groin area. Just carry a change of clothes, incuding underwear with you.
-Related, should you decide on taking a rucksack, consider buying one made for biking specifically - your regular brand might cause your back to sweat way too much for comfort. Alternatively, buy a rack-mounted bag(something like this one: http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productDetails.asp?productID=18793&categoryID=96).
-When I started, I was in a really bad shape, having to stop and rest every ten minutes at first. It took me almost exactly two weeks of getting there and back to build enough endurance to actually begin enjoying the ride. Other cyclists(and amateur runners) I talked to mentioned a similar time period.
-I'd say get a cheap-ish bike first, then as you learn the pros and cons of your current one, consider upgrading to something more expensive, but it's just my own opinion.
-Do carry with you a set of bike tools and a couple of spare inner tubes. I can't even count the times I had to change a tube. Once, I had to do it three times on one trip.(but my tires were in a really bad shape by then, so don't worry too much about it ;)

Also, is it just me, or does that site you've linked to have some crazy high prices?
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« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2011, 04:19:58 pm »

I used to ride 10 miles to work a few years back, so I can throw in a few more points:

-You might not want to wear the typical bike pants, but there are alternatives that you can wear underneath your shorts. Now, this is actually quite important, if you're going to ride your bike regularly and in a hot weather, as you don't want any uninvited fungal guests to settle in your groin area. Just carry a change of clothes, incuding underwear with you.
-Related, should you decide on taking a rucksack, consider buying one made for biking specifically - your regular brand might cause your back to sweat way too much for comfort. Alternatively, buy a rack-mounted bag(something like this one: http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productDetails.asp?productID=18793&categoryID=96).
-When I started, I was in a really bad shape, having to stop and rest every ten minutes at first. It took me almost exactly two weeks of getting there and back to build enough endurance to actually begin enjoying the ride. Other cyclists(and amateur runners) I talked to mentioned a similar time period.
-I'd say get a cheap-ish bike first, then as you learn the pros and cons of your current one, consider upgrading to something more expensive, but it's just my own opinion.
-Do carry with you a set of bike tools and a couple of spare inner tubes. I can't even count the times I had to change a tube. Once, I had to do it three times on one trip.(but my tires were in a really bad shape by then, so don't worry too much about it ;)

Also, is it just me, or does that site you've linked to have some crazy high prices?

I found that same bike at a local shop for $359.

Anyway, I went into the local shop and told the helpful salesman what I wanted and he pretty much went straight for that exact model lamenting that they didn't have one in my size.  He says he can get one for me, but I didn't pull the trigger quite yet.  He showed me some other models that might work out fine so I'm going to research those a bit.  $400 is a lot of money to be spending without doing my research.  They've also go helmets and stuff in the shop, is $45 a reasonable price for a decent helmet?

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« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2011, 04:50:43 pm »

After browsing the net for prices, I'd say it's a bit overpriced, but not too much.
This site says that you can get one for ~35$, but I bet you could find one even cheaper online. The site also tells you everything you might ever want to know about biker's helmets, and contains a lot of additional information on various subjects related to cycling and other activities(http://www.rei.com/expertadvice/cycling#tab_3). Read up if you want to make a more informed choice regarding your future bike.

Also, despite somebody else saying erlier that you should avoid online stores, I'd argue to a contrary - the price of delivery is more often than not offset by generally lower prices of bikes and accessories, and the choice is naturally broader. Also, you can take your time to decide what you want, compare prices, and read more about any specific brand/part/accessory etc. before you put your money down.
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« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2011, 05:05:36 pm »

After browsing the net for prices, I'd say it's a bit overpriced, but not too much.
This site says that you can get one for ~35$, but I bet you could find one even cheaper online. The site also tells you everything you might ever want to know about biker's helmets, and contains a lot of additional information on various subjects related to cycling and other activities(http://www.rei.com/expertadvice/cycling#tab_3). Read up if you want to make a more informed choice regarding your future bike.

Also, despite somebody else saying erlier that you should avoid online stores, I'd argue to a contrary - the price of delivery is more often than not offset by generally lower prices of bikes and accessories, and the choice is naturally broader. Also, you can take your time to decide what you want, compare prices, and read more about any specific brand/part/accessory etc. before you put your money down.

Noted, I think I'll go for the shop though.  I actually have been doing quite a bit of research on the subject aside from this thread and people have said getting a bike that is fit and adjusted to you is one of the most important things you can do.  I don't mind paying a bit extra if it means I can have someone help me get set up.  The guy there had a lot of other practical advice for the commute and riding in traffic.  They also apparently have a fairly liberal policy on tune ups and such.  I'll probably go online for accessories and stuff though, doesn't really sound like it's worth it for the helmet, but I'm sure there are deals to be found for other stuff.

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Re: Riding a bike to work
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2011, 05:20:58 pm »

unless your paying ALOT a helmet is a helmet, they all use the same foam (some might be slightly more aero dynamic but that wont affect you).

Go for the best fitting helmet you can find. The bits which are curved up for your ears should settle less than a 1/4 an inch above your ears imo.
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« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2011, 07:12:24 pm »

I got to test ride an upgraded version of the bike I was looking at, felt pretty good.  They're bringing down a few bikes from another store for me to test ride in a few days, along with the exact model I was looking at.  Great low pressure customer service.

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Re: Riding a bike to work
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2011, 07:38:08 pm »

$45 for a helmet is reasonable.  Sure, you can probably find it cheaper on the internet, probably with free shipping as well, but it's a noble thing to support your area businesses.  It sounds like they are doing a lot to get you set up, that's nice.
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« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2011, 11:13:10 pm »

:( looks like they're out of the one I want, so I'll have to wait a week for the new ones to come in.  I was getting a bit excited, but this means I got to choose the color I wanted.  Went for green.  I'll probably end up on one of these unless one of the other ones he's got me trying out blows my mind.

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« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2011, 08:21:14 am »

Becoming a bike commuter may be the result of money pressures or whatever, but you'll probably end up enjoying it as a major part of your lifestyle. It's fun and keeps you in shape and in some places and conditions is as fast or almost as fast as driving. And usually more enjoyable.

I'd recommend going to bikeforums.net and reading/posting in the "commuting" forum where tons of people who religiously bike to work will be happy to answer any question you can think of.


Questions:
What kind of bike should I be looking for and how much will I be spending?  What other equipment will I need (helmet is obvious)?
A decent bike. Short version...one that's not from Walmart or Target or too old and worn out. You can find single speed bikes on sites like bikesdirect.com that are of quite adequate (though not high) quality for like 300 bucks or so although assembly and hence mechanic skills are needed. Or look around on craigslist. Again, bikeforums.net has people that will help you.

Other equipment - a mini pump (the Topeak Road Morph is a cheap and excellent option; I can't really imagine needing another pump and it costs like 20 bucks), a small kit for basic repairs (fixing flats, adjusting brakes, shifters, and so forth) and lights for riding in the dark. If you have to carry a lot of stuff to work you may want a rear rack that you can strap things onto, or put a basket onto. You can get these real nifty messenger bag/briefcase items that look presentable for the office but also are panniers and attach to a bike's rear rack. I have a cheap one of those and am going to upgrade to a more expensive and durable one when I've got the cash.

A good lock is of course important. Get a solid u-lock - Kryptonite makes good ones. Combination is not as good as key. Keep in mind that bike locks are deterrence, not prevention. Anybody who has power tools can saw through any bike lock; it's a matter of how quick and stealthily they can do it - though it could happen on a busy street if they act like they know what they're doing. Basically, the less protected a bike is, the more tempting of a target for theft it is. Hence, a good lock (or two) makes a potential thief more likely to switch their attention to a bike with a crappy cable lock instead.

But really, only the helmet and lights are strictly necessary, and maybe not even the lights if everything is well lit with streetlights. I never use lights riding around Philadelphia because there are streetlights everywhere.

If you do get lights, don't go cheap - I learned that from experience. You get what you pay for.

Helmets, go cheap if you want. Helmets all legally have to meet certain safety standards, and beyond the basic 20 dollar helmet to protect you, you're basically paying for light weight and aerodynamics.

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How long would 6 miles take to bike?
Depends how in shape you, on traffic and hills, and on the bike. It would take me like 30-40 minutes if I were going my normal, not-too-strenous pace.

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How difficult would a 6 mile bike ride be physically?
Unless it has some big uphills, not difficult at all - once you get in shape. Also, things like wind and rain can add considerable difficulty. But a six mile commute is really quite short.
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Legally, what do I need to know? 
All the laws related to cyclists' rights and responsibilities in your state and locality.
Quick tips - you have the right to ride on the road, despite what some drivers may think (and yell at you). Be assertive in taking the lanes that you need when there is not a bike lane.
You are NOT supposed to ride on sidewalks. The exception would be if there's a long, empty sidewalk next to a road with no shoulder or bike lane - then you'd be a bit of a dick not to ride on it, but if pedestrians do come, yield to them as you are the one in the wrong place.
Other than that, the basic rules of driving apply.

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Bike pants aren't happening.
I like biking in gym shorts, on a leather (Brooks) saddle. For such a short ride you shouldn't need any special pants, but make dang sure you have a comfortable saddle. I do have a special pair of bike shorts (the right spandex ones with padding) for long hard rides but for riding around town I just wear my normal clothes. When it's warm out I just roll up the right pants leg to keep it from touching the chain and the chain grease. When it's cold I get a rubber band to keep the pants leg away from the chain.

You may get sweaty so it wouldn't be a bad idea to have a change of clothes - have biking clothes plus work clothes. Once you're in good enough shape you may be like me and not break a sweat from a 5-6 mile commute done at about 12-15mph.
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« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2011, 07:50:52 pm »

Well, I went ahead and took the plunge.  I ended up spending a bit more money for the 7300, I like the shifter on it a lot more and it had better wheels on it.  I rode it 3 miles home and I'm certainly feeling it a bit, but I'm sure I'll be a bit less tired after I ride it for a week or 2 on the local trails.  I was surprised how well it stood up against the car for the ride home time wise.  I had been dreading my 15 minute commute taking an hour, but it looks like it will be closer to 30 minutes once I get in shape. 

Thanks for all the help folks, I'll have a picture up after I finish with dinner.

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« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2011, 08:02:10 pm »

And so another human take up riding a bike to work, we salute you brother!

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« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2011, 08:37:32 pm »

And here it is


Just kidding, here's the real one
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« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2011, 08:47:58 pm »

It's a bell, you just suck at bells. Use your thumb to pull the black plastic thing down, then slide your thumb off the black plastic thing. It will spring back into place, and strike the metal bit with enough force and quickly enough to make a ringing sound.
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