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Author Topic: Terraria... Looks like Minecraft + Metroid?  (Read 158148 times)

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Re: Terraria... Looks like Minecraft + Metroid?
« Reply #105 on: April 24, 2011, 06:26:39 pm »

Like, why are they being done so well, or why are they seemingly getting people more excited?

I think they're just tapping into gameplay without all the multimillion dollar hoopla. That shit sells nowadays, if it's priced right. You know, all those older elitist gamers with disposable income who still like 16-bit graphics and such. :P
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Re: Terraria... Looks like Minecraft + Metroid?
« Reply #106 on: April 24, 2011, 06:41:38 pm »

Because Indie games are the only ones really innovating anymore.  Games are becoming like movies.  When millions of dollars are on the line doing anything new is foolhardy.  Indie games aren't as costly and are usually labors of love so we get to see really fancy stuff come out of it.

That being said, that doesn't mean indie games are some magical force of originality and innovation in a sea of Call of Gears of Honor Assault Recon 4: Modern Halo.  For every Terraria there are ten or eleven Tower Defense/DotA/Minecraft Clones/and pretentious "art" games, and games so bad their asking for money comes off as insulting (I'm talking about you, Fort Zombie)
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Re: Terraria... Looks like Minecraft + Metroid?
« Reply #107 on: April 24, 2011, 06:42:54 pm »

Yeah. There's a market for people who value gameplay/open-endedness > pizazz, or at any rate value it as much as pizazz. Pizazz also has a market. It's fun to play awesome-looking games on huge flatscreens with a home theater system, etc. Then again, it's also great to have solid, replayable games that you can play anywhere regardless of how good (or awful) the graphics are and still have fun. And people will pay for it.

The free market is a very cool thing.
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Re: Terraria... Looks like Minecraft + Metroid?
« Reply #108 on: April 24, 2011, 06:54:14 pm »

Plus I think it's the tech. It's getting easier and easier for people to make these kinds of games (and by contrast, probably more expensive to license the tech necessary to create the "other" kind of games.) So people can "easily" produce stuff that appeals to people like us, and actually turn a modest profit. I don't think there was the variety or ease of access to development tools 10 or 15 years ago like there is today. I don't know what the game is built on, but I kind of doubt it's a hand-crafted engine with handcrafted graphics handling and all that shiz, that eats up a year of development and $400,000 like it does with major dev houses.
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Re: Terraria... Looks like Minecraft + Metroid?
« Reply #109 on: April 24, 2011, 06:55:58 pm »

This looks nice, despite looking like Notch made a 2D version of Minecraft with more combat and Gold-Shop-like weapons and armour.
Also c'mon lots of people say "blabla you fanboy everything looks like minecraft to you" but look at the hearts. God, look at the BUBBLES!

But I like it, and from what've seen on the trailer you can even place NPCs? (notice when he 'builds the world' and then some shopkeeper suddenly appears in a room and a shop interface appears).
It seems nice. And while I can't stand digging enough iron for my ridiculously weird projects in Minecraft (yep I only play vanilla, normal, without cheats and without patience), this looks fast-paced enough for my impatient being.

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Re: Terraria... Looks like Minecraft + Metroid?
« Reply #110 on: April 24, 2011, 06:56:56 pm »

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Re: Terraria... Looks like Minecraft + Metroid?
« Reply #111 on: April 24, 2011, 06:59:50 pm »

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2) I am big on letting the player see the weapons and armor they are using. The goal here was to keep things simple so it would be easier to add items later down the road. There will be a lot more hairstyles to chose from, but your overall look will come mostly from the gear you are wearing. I don't have any plans right now for custom player graphics.

Well that's a shame.  Not that he's ruling anything out obviously.
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Re: Terraria... Looks like Minecraft + Metroid?
« Reply #112 on: April 24, 2011, 07:01:18 pm »

Also c'mon lots of people say "blabla you fanboy everything looks like minecraft to you" but look at the hearts. God, look at the BUBBLES!
Oh fuck a game that uses bubbles to represent breath and hearts to represent life? That hasn't been done for at least a dec-
 Oh, wait, ooohhhhhh.

 I think people are just getting attached to the low-res pixel art being used properly. Notch had 16x16 tiles, they looked fantastic. These guys have SquareEnix style sprites, good work there. There are some other graphical similarities here, but again this has far more in common with Clonk Rage than Minecraft.

 Note that custom graphics were ruled out in the context of player skins others can see. In the context of editing the graphics for your client who the heck knows. They don't have a view on modding at the moment as they just want the game to work, so who knows what will happen.
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Re: Terraria... Looks like Minecraft + Metroid?
« Reply #113 on: April 24, 2011, 07:09:20 pm »

Also c'mon lots of people say "blabla you fanboy everything looks like minecraft to you" but look at the hearts. God, look at the BUBBLES!
Oh fuck a game that uses bubbles to represent breath and hearts to represent life? That hasn't been done for at least a dec-
 Oh, wait, ooohhhhhh.

That's true but I still think it looks like Minecraft went 2D. Also I'm laughing so I'm not arguing or anything.
I think the game will be really fun, and I don't really care it looks like other games etc.
But I hope there aren't green, phallic monsters that blow up when they get near you, and drop gunpowder when killed... heheh
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Re: Terraria... Looks like Minecraft + Metroid?
« Reply #114 on: April 24, 2011, 07:10:02 pm »

This looks nice, despite looking like Notch made a 2D version of Minecraft with more combat and Gold-Shop-like weapons and armour.
Also c'mon lots of people say "blabla you fanboy everything looks like minecraft to you" but look at the hearts. God, look at the BUBBLES!

But I like it, and from what've seen on the trailer you can even place NPCs? (notice when he 'builds the world' and then some shopkeeper suddenly appears in a room and a shop interface appears).
It seems nice. And while I can't stand digging enough iron for my ridiculously weird projects in Minecraft (yep I only play vanilla, normal, without cheats and without patience), this looks fast-paced enough for my impatient being.

ZOMG NOT STEALING NOTCHS PRECIOUS ORIGINAL HEARTS AND BUBBLES DESIGN.

But seriously, while there are definite direct connections to MC, they're doing a lot of original stuff as well - love the burrowing Worms
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Re: Terraria... Looks like Minecraft + Metroid?
« Reply #115 on: April 24, 2011, 07:17:11 pm »

Which, you know, are a staple of older 2d platforming games.

Again, having not played MC, when I saw it I immediately thought of all the old NES games I love. Zelda, FF, Square-Anything. Is there just a chance that's what they were going for, and not because MC did it? I think there's at least some, about as much chance that's what Notch was going for when he decided hearts and bubbles ruled.

With this being a lower end development deal, I'm not surprised they're non-committal to modding or anything else.

And give me part 7, 8 and 9, dagnabit. Part 6 was them getting sandwiched between 10 zombies for 8 minutes :P
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Re: Terraria... Looks like Minecraft + Metroid?
« Reply #116 on: April 24, 2011, 07:21:46 pm »

I intended to use the Hearts & Bubbles as a joke (look at the comments from the video) but it's too late now
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Re: Terraria... Looks like Minecraft + Metroid?
« Reply #117 on: April 24, 2011, 07:23:02 pm »

Yeah, it's got a catchy, slogan like quality to it. Like an LCS slogan.

"Hearts and Bubbles, bitches!"
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Re: Terraria... Looks like Minecraft + Metroid?
« Reply #118 on: April 25, 2011, 01:47:53 am »

Yeah. I would bet real cash that Notch, the great infallible being that he is, ripped them from something NES era.
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Re: Terraria... Looks like Minecraft + Metroid?
« Reply #119 on: April 25, 2011, 10:46:51 am »

The recent topic bump reminded me that this is much closer to Diggles than just about anything else.
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