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Niveras

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Re: Elona
« Reply #4170 on: December 14, 2015, 05:47:46 am »

It can be tedious in finding things to add specific parts to specific pets, because what body part is transferred varies based on both the donor and recipient.

However, adding skills is straightforward. More or less if the recipient doesn't have a skill that the donor has, they'll get it. If the donor has more than one skill that the recipient is missing, the recipient will sometimes get two skills in a single fusion, but other times you need multiple copies of the donor to give them all the missing skills.

This principle is also kind of true for body parts. A humanoid with 13 parts generally won't get new parts from another humanoid. They may get more legs or hands from a horse or asura, who have a second leg slot or four hand slots, respectively (thus parts which the humanoid recipient doesn't have). But still dependent on the above-mentioned variability between donors/recipients.

If you're primarily transferring skills, you'll want to pay attention to any body parts being added to make sure the pet doesn't go over 13 parts total, as they then gain a speed malus. However, this isn't a big deal and if you're just fusing humanoid pets (particularly those bought from derphy) for skills, it is not likely to come up.

Right now I'm just trying to get my pets all the skills I want them to have that they may not have yet. This is detection, pick pocket, fishing, gene engineer (these give them a chance to gain materials when hitting things, E+ only; also not sure if they just need one or if they stack or if they provide different materials), traveling and swimming (speed gains), martial-related skills (eye of mind and tactics if melee/throwing, or marksman if ranged). Cooking. Tailoring (pets may create items for free when you sleep, doesn't appears to be true for the carpentry/jewelcraft though; E+ only). Almost all of these are available on pets from the slave master in derphy. Fishing and swimming can be had from flying frogs. Not sure where to get gene engineer for pets, though.
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Re: Elona
« Reply #4171 on: December 14, 2015, 05:52:33 am »

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Re: Elona
« Reply #4172 on: December 14, 2015, 05:59:52 am »

Is it actually possible for a pet to have gene engineer? AFAIK no race or class has that skill.
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Re: Elona
« Reply #4173 on: December 14, 2015, 06:17:54 am »

Scroll of gain attribute, blessed version always gives a skill that you don't have. They are silly rare though.
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« Reply #4174 on: December 14, 2015, 02:55:08 pm »

Not sure how you'd get a pet to read a scroll, though?
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« Reply #4175 on: December 14, 2015, 05:52:15 pm »

Pets will use scrolls or potions if you put it in their inventory...unless something weird goes on with that one.
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Re: Elona
« Reply #4176 on: December 15, 2015, 05:35:41 am »

Ah, didn't realize that.

I wish pet management wasn't so annoying. Like, at least if you give them more than one food item, they'll eat through them when they get hungry, instead of having to give them a single item at a time and only when they are already hungry. I'd actually like to see a single menu/window option for managing inventory across multiple pets. That wouldn't even have to trade immediately (i.e. while they are distant from you), just say "this item is for this pet" or "I want this item back" and the pet will take it from you or give it to you the next time they are adjacent.
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Re: Elona
« Reply #4177 on: December 24, 2015, 01:43:11 pm »

Quote from: Elona blog
"Sorry for the long absence especially for the English community. The contracts of external servers I've been using to maintain the forum and the in-game chat will expire at the end of this month [posted 19/DEC/215]. Please make a backup of your images/articles if necessary.

It is not like we're abandoning Elona or its sequel so please don't feel sad. ( One of the reasons behind it is that as an indie dev there's always a financial issue and I thought it would do more good, hopefully, to invest in game assets.)"

[url]http://homepage3.nifty.com/rfish/index_e.html=[/urll]

I presume it would also affect the moongates and name voting. In fact, I wonder how voting works if it can't connect. Only vote for yourself? But still not a huge thing to lose.



I've been saving spellbooks for I don't really know why reasons, but in retrospect I guess this isn't really necessary? I suppose some of the rarer books might benefit from having a higher memorization and literacy, but generally speaking I guess you're okay to just read whatever books you come across as long as you're Relatively Safe? And the literacy issue might even be moot now with the Reading Party special action in E+, though I'm not 100% sure if it actually means you'll never get, for example, monsters summoned on you no matter how difficult the book is.
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« Reply #4178 on: February 28, 2016, 03:33:07 pm »

Ah Elona, it's been a while, nobody minds if I necro this thread right?


Been getting back into this game and I have to say, Golems are downright painful to play without a whole lotta speed bonuses.
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Re: Elona
« Reply #4179 on: April 16, 2016, 05:40:26 am »

I Tink Eye'll bemp dis.
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Re: Elona
« Reply #4180 on: April 16, 2016, 07:24:16 am »

I think maybe one day I should take the time to build up a mage powerful enough to actually, y'know, be a mage.
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Re: Elona
« Reply #4181 on: April 16, 2016, 04:56:36 pm »

Yeah, casting seemed too complicated to bother with, so this is one of the only games where I exclusively played scrub warriors.
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Re: Elona
« Reply #4182 on: April 16, 2016, 05:03:19 pm »

Simple. Play as a mage, disregard magic for the first 5 levels. Pump all points into casting. Get MP+ feats (?), get magic device up to 30 naturally, practice spells until you got 100% success rates. Use Mana burst a lot, and bring scrolls of mana too.
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Re: Elona
« Reply #4183 on: April 16, 2016, 08:03:57 pm »

Getting magic usable just takes loads of grinding. Grinding for spell stock, grinding for spell levels, grinding for skills...

Elona+ makes it loads easier, but there's still loads of grinding.
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Re: Elona
« Reply #4184 on: April 16, 2016, 10:29:12 pm »

Just tried starting over with Custom, since I couldn't find my old Elona+ install. Got this error after the introduction story slides, when it was loading into the cave:

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HspError 19 WinError 0 Ver 2780 Mode 11
efId 0 efP 0 Area 51/1
ci 59#685 ti 0#67 cc 0#0 tc 0#0 rc 59#74
3. map_preBegin ct:0
2. Map:Check renew ct:0
1. renew_major ct:0
0. renew_minor ct:0
* error in function:item_create:#685


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