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[FearfulJesuit]

If I removed the gender caste system- or gave them both the [BREEDER] tag- will I wind up with bisexual dwarves?

[3]

No. No sexes means no marriages at all, and no children.

There is no such BREEDER tag.

[Jeoshua]

Seriously, what is with all the gay questions/suggestions recently?

Did the Gay Pride Parade just go through Times Square and I didn't notice? Again?

[Dutchling]

IIRC, marriage and getting children works like this:
A caste is either [FEMALE], [MALE], or none (cannot be both)
Two castes of the same races can marry if one is male and the other female
If the female has something like [MULTIPLE_LITTER_RARE] and the race has [CHILD] (might need more for children, not sure) the female can get pregnant.
You can of course add a 'transvestite' caste that is identical to a female but not fertile (no litter tag) and pretend she is a male dwarf dressing as a female (bonus point for giving him/her facial hair and real female dwarves no facial hair).

[Jeoshua]

Wait... I thought NO litter tag would mean they give birth normally, meaning in litters.

Have I been using [LITTERSIZE:0:0] for no reason?

[Deon]

For no reason.

To have them with single babies most of the time (like 99% for me), add MULTIPLE_LITTER_RARE.

To have them giving birth to only ONE child, add [LITTERSIZE:1:1].

I thought LITTERSIZE:0:0 would mean they have 0 babies (logically), I've never tried it.

[Koji]

For now you have to do like I do and pretend that Urist and Dastot are seeing each other on the down low and Melbil doesn't know.

Toady suggested this sort of behavior might lead to interesting scenarios in the future, so it will be funny/heartwarming/sad to see how that all pans out. I think the idea was that you could have all sorts of social outliers in your society, and that the culture would have different tolerances toward them. In one game your gay baron would probably have a wonderful time putting up drapes in the dining hall and in another he might be forced to lead a secret double life. I am wondering what will happen if the cultural sliders all get stuck on "Oglaf."

Did the Gay Pride Parade just go through Times Square and I didn't notice? Again?

June is Pride month here in Seattle. A lot of other cities do their parades/festivals around this time of the year because the weather is nice. Maybe a few big cities did have celebrations recently.

[Deon]

Huh, what? I am sure we will soon have a Day of the Metallurgist, I think in a few months (this summer), and there's a Day of the Frontier Guard in a month and a week, but a day of a gay? Okay, I think I live in a wrong country. So DF makes sense for me for now .


P.S. Okay, is it really hard to use search?

Gay dorves
Gay dwarfs?
Gay dwarfs?
Do I have a gay dwarf? (honestly homosexual relationship in game)
...
Apparently I'm gay.


The "search" button really helps sometimes.

[Jeoshua]

So, to clarify.  A Caste with a [FEMALE] tag, but absolutely no form of litter tag, will marry [MALE]s normally and use up an otherwise fertile, baby-producing "marriage slot"?

[3]

No, a female with no litter tag will produce litters of children within the default size range (whatever that range is).

[Deon]

So, to clarify.  A Caste with a [FEMALE] tag, but absolutely no form of litter tag, will marry [MALE]s normally and use up an otherwise fertile, baby-producing "marriage slot"?

Oh, I didn't get your intention. So, did [LITTERSIZE:0:0] work? As I said I've never tried it.

P.S. And I see where it leads.

[Jeoshua]

Well, when I made Elves have [LITTERSIZE:0:0] and that "non-breeder" also took up over 50% of the female population, Elves died off as soon as they started to reach their old-age levels I'd set for them.  So yeah, it seems to work alright even in worldgen.

Problem is that if you have too many, the species dies off... which is not exactly what I was intending.  Slowing growth down, sure... extinction, no.

I use it on [CREATURE:HUMAN] now, making up about 10% of the female population.  I'd try modding in sterile males, too... but there doesn't seem to be a way to switch off THEIR babymakers.

[FearfulJesuit]

Wait, what if you have a caste that has both [MALE] and [FEMALE] tags?

[Deon]

I think the last one is taken into account.

[darkflagrance]

I thought it was the first one?