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[ThirdSpartacus]

Just a quick question, Will this method still work in the current version (.25)?
http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DF2010:Stupid_dwarf_trick#Mass_Cage_Recycling_System

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Mass Cage Recycling System

Dig out a room and another room of the same size above that. In the upper room channel out at least 6 openings into the lower room which are spaced exactly 2 tiles away from each other. Build floor hatches and place them over all of the openings. Place one big animal stockpile over the room such that every tile in the stockpile is adjacent (orthogonally and diagonally) to one of the hatches. Disable empty cages on the stockpile. Create one large pit zone that covers all of the openings such that all of them are part of the same pit. Disable all other animal stockpiles except for one empty-cage-only stockpile somewhere.

The top level should look like this:

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=c==c==c=
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=c==c==c=
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= is Stockpile, c is Hatch
One pit zone covers all six hatch openings.

Close the lower room off, fill it with traps, your military, turn it into a flood chamber, an arena, a 50 z-level pit, put a live dragon in it, or whatever sadistic sort of thing you want. Now, wait for the stockpile above to fill and assign creatures to the pit all in one shot. Being pitted through the hatches will keep dwarves from being spooked by hostile creatures below and with all cages directly adjacent to pits creatures can be dumped in instantly without having to be lead around preventing most types of creatures from escaping. A mass of dwarves will pile into the room, pit the creatures at the about same time, and haul the empty cages off.

I've followed the steps but the dwarves don't seem to be generating gobbo-pit jobs. Do the cages need to be manually constructed (ARG!) in this version or is it just because of all those stone hauling jobs?

[bobhayes]

Just a quick question, Will this method still work in the current version (.25)?
http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DF2010:Stupid_dwarf_trick#Mass_Cage_Recycling_System
[spoiler]Mass Cage Recycling System
I've followed the steps but the dwarves don't seem to be generating gobbo-pit jobs. Do the cages need to be manually constructed (ARG!) in this version or is it just because of all those stone hauling jobs?

It should work. Pitting is a relatively low priority job. In general, don't pit unless you've got nothing else going on, especially because you want your melee squad(s) available in the pitting area to catch runaways.

[wuphonsreach]

Yeah, make sure that during mass-pitting operations you have at least 1 squad (5+ dwarves) in the upper room along with some cage traps in the hallway outside to catch / kill runaways.  (If you caged it once, you can probably cage it again - unless you used a webbed cage or it was an "unconscious" catch.) 

But if you design the room correctly, even thieves only have about a 20-30% chance of escape.  Critters are more like 30-40%.  "Caged prisoners" are pretty much 0% chance of escape.

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[elpizo]

i also have a question, can you pit a gob witout him attacking the pitter? how does that work? i want to make sacrifices to the cliff

[FuzzyZergling]

i also have a question, can you pit a gob witout him attacking the pitter? how does that work? i want to make sacrifices to the cliff

Only thieves will try to escape. All other goblins will be pitted with no problems.

[ral]

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Cool diagram! You should put that on the wiki....

[elpizo]

i also have a question, can you pit a gob witout him attacking the pitter? how does that work? i want to make sacrifices to the cliff

Only thieves will try to escape. All other goblins will be pitted with no problems.

wow those goblins must really be even more stupid than dorfs

[Komus]

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Cool diagram! You should put that on the wiki....

I haven't seen an illustration on the wiki, to date, which uses a 3rd party tileset. I'm a tileset user. To the suggestions board!

[ThirdSpartacus]

It should work.

So no, I do not need to manually build the cages?
(in order to pit their inhabitants)
(who are hostile)
(and smell)

[ral]

You really only need to build the cages if they contain something like a titan, giant, dragon, etc. Something big that dwarves can't really lead around (not even one square). You might want to build cages for thieves and fliers, but I wouldn't bother unless they're particularly difficult to kill thieves or fliers. Instead I'd just order a squad or two to sit around the cages and kill them when they escape.