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dirty foot

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Sieged by humans, no causation at all.
« on: April 15, 2011, 04:44:05 am »

Title says it all. I've had GREAT relations with the humans, they've made a lot of money off me. All of a sudden, they're besieging me.

The only thing I can think of is a very strange occurrence where the game notified me of a human diplomat showing up and zoomed to the area, but all that was there was an old bloody spot from when my hunter killed a water buffalo. You think the diplomat somehow died and I was blamed for it? I mean, under the civilization screen, it doesn't show import/export of terror/vengeance. Honestly though, I have no idea what's going on. This is my first time being besieged by anything non-goblin.
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Re: Sieged by humans, no causation at all.
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2011, 04:55:18 am »

Maybe the humans realized that there was a way to obtain your high quality goods without having to pay for them.

Or perhaps there are multiple human civilizations, and they're not all as friendly as the one you trade with?

I'm not even sure if either is possible.
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Re: Sieged by humans, no causation at all.
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2011, 05:03:45 am »

Maybe the humans realized that there was a way to obtain your high quality goods without having to pay for them.

Or perhaps there are multiple human civilizations, and they're not all as friendly as the one you trade with?

I'm not even sure if either is possible.
It had actually occurred to me that the second was possible. Honestly, that would be pretty cool. I like a complicated diplomacy.

Unfortunately, there's only one human civ in the list. Bummer.
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Re: Sieged by humans, no causation at all.
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2011, 06:59:13 am »

Occasionally, the human liaison will die of old age when he enters the map, and human liaison deaths trigger sieges.
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Re: Sieged by humans, no causation at all.
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2011, 07:18:09 am »

Can you find his body on the stocks screen under corpses somewhere?

But yeah, I think you get blamed for anyone who dies or isn't protected.  It's not really fair sometimes.  I think they'll send a diplomat to do peace talks if you smash enough of their sieges.
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Re: Sieged by humans, no causation at all.
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2011, 08:30:55 am »

Yep, if the diplomat dies that almost guarantees a siege. Apparently it's your fault this idiot decided to show up the same time as a siege and calmly stroll past a Titan. Not a big deal though, bash in enough heads and they'll try to make peace with you. The options during the peace talks are hilarious btw
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Re: Sieged by humans, no causation at all.
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2011, 09:10:02 am »

What's happened to me occasionally is the diplomat dies of old age upon arrival, which triggers a siege in most cases.
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Re: Sieged by humans, no causation at all.
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2011, 10:32:46 am »

You can start off at war with them.  You can back up your game files, abandon the fort in the back up, and check history.

My recent fort started off at war with elves.
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Re: Sieged by humans, no causation at all.
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2011, 10:43:57 am »

bash in enough heads and they'll try to make peace with you. The options during the peace talks are hilarious btw
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Re: Sieged by humans, no causation at all.
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2011, 10:58:55 am »

Is it possible that OP's mountainhome pissed off the humans and started a war?
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Re: Sieged by humans, no causation at all.
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2011, 11:53:20 am »

Is it possible that OP's mountainhome pissed off the humans and started a war?
Yup.

That can happen too, but it's rarer. Or maybe you traded with the elves? Humans will attack you if you trade with the enemy (if they're at war)

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Re: Sieged by humans, no causation at all.
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2011, 12:35:56 pm »

Maybe the humans realized that there was a way to obtain your high quality goods without having to pay for them.
You can't blame them.Dwarven bolts are to die for.
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Re: Sieged by humans, no causation at all.
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2011, 12:39:20 pm »

Maybe the humans realized that there was a way to obtain your high quality goods without having to pay for them.
You can't blame them.Dwarven bolts are to die for.
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Re: Sieged by humans, no causation at all.
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2011, 10:07:50 pm »

Yep, if the diplomat dies that almost guarantees a siege. Apparently it's your fault this idiot decided to show up the same time as a siege and calmly stroll past a Titan. Not a big deal though, bash in enough heads and they'll try to make peace with you. The options during the peace talks are hilarious btw
If I choose to keep warring with them during peace talks, will I get another chance to for peace later?

I'd like to sweat the humans a bit for trying to screw with me.
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Re: Sieged by humans, no causation at all.
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2011, 12:53:27 am »

Yep, if the diplomat dies that almost guarantees a siege. Apparently it's your fault this idiot decided to show up the same time as a siege and calmly stroll past a Titan. Not a big deal though, bash in enough heads and they'll try to make peace with you. The options during the peace talks are hilarious btw
If I choose to keep warring with them during peace talks, will I get another chance to for peace later?

I'd like to sweat the humans a bit for trying to screw with me.
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