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[Deadmeat1471]

Fate of the World



http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DD-FOTW/fate-of-the-world

I've been watching this for a long time, it did not disappoint. It's probably the most in depth, fun, difficult, replayable ecological sim I have come across. When I say hard, I mean hard. A patch released today actually reduces the difficulty because it was so hard to survive.
Some people have their strategies and know how to 'win', but theres alot of randomisation and a hell of alot of different strategies to do.
The only downside is there is only really 2 scenarios, a training one focusing on Africa and a main campaign focusing on the world. They did bring out a new one in todays patch, to bridge the gap, but I don't know what that is yet.
Some people have trouble with the interface, as there are alot of statistics and graphs, and you need to use them. However there is a 'news' section for each nation giving hints to how things are progressing, very well! It gives nearly all the needed information at a glance as to the countrys current problems.

Also, its cheap!



Now, onto strategies  has anybody won? how did you doit? what are your strategies for:
Africa
South America
India
China
Russia
Japan
Oceana
Europe
NAfrica
SAfrica
Middle East


Personally I love to turn Africa into agricultural haven, and make bio fuels as a biproduct.


Tech Issues
Zonealarm conflicts with the Steam version of the game for whatever reason.
Fix-Uninstall ZoneAlarm.

[forsaken1111]

I own it. It still doesn't run well for me, not much change from the beta. At least they fixed the stuttering sound problem I had, but it still has some memory leaks somewhere which make it crash eventually. I do like the game though.

[Deadmeat1471]

I own it. It still doesn't run well for me, not much change from the beta. At least they fixed the stuttering sound problem I had, but it still has some memory leaks somewhere which make it crash eventually. I do like the game though.

Bah. I've had no engine problems, no crashes. It does seem a bit cpu intensive though, some slowdowns in clicking the menus later in the game. As usual the game could be equally as good if not better with a 2d map, the 3d map actually makes it hard to see where events are happening. But pandering to the kiddies happened as usual.

[Shadowlord]

There still isn't a freeform mode, is there?

[engy]

I've won.  It was crazy hard; now it was before the patch which does fix quite a few things.

1st, mess around on the Oil Challege until you can beat that, it's nowhere near as hard and it's pretty fun.

Now, Three Degrees, the trick is to never go much above 1 Degree.  I could not beat it without causing Megadeaths, I came close a few times, but it just always fell apart on me.
My plan was bacially:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

1st, Tobin Tax everything; Start Fixing Russia so you can Tobin Tax them again.
2. Do not shift any Tobin Taxable country Green, you need them to get happier from Aersols.
3. Abandon Africa, and the Middle East - Maybe India up to you.  If you have enough money later you can try and save them.
4. Kill 1/2 the Chinese with the Bioplagues, and get them and everyone else off Coal Industries
5. Check the CO2 report, see which countries are Killing large ammonts of trees.  Stop it now.
6. Invest in a different tech in every Tobin Taxable Country  (Expect Latin America if you get them up there...)
7. Use weather saftey measures to keep Tobin Taxable Countries happy until you get Aersols.
8.  Place Aersols in every Tobin Taxable Country
9.  Shift off Oil, and Gobal Ban Coal, and Nuclear (Yeah, it's clean, but you don't need a nuclear war ending you game.)
10.  Work on the highest CO2 producers and just sit back and win.  If you made it this far, as long as you banned Nuclear early enough, you should win.

[Deadmeat1471]

Hm I havent tried tobin taxing basicly everyone. I will have to try this out

[Cthulhu]

4. Kill 1/2 the Chinese with the Bioplagues

Aren't you supposed to be saving the world?

[Deadmeat1471]

4. Kill 1/2 the Chinese with the Bioplagues

Aren't you supposed to be saving the world?

Agreed, I never even considered this lol.

[Lord Dullard]

4. Kill 1/2 the Chinese with the Bioplagues

Aren't you supposed to be saving the world?

Hey, if you wanna make an omelette...

[forsaken1111]

4. Kill 1/2 the Chinese with the Bioplagues

Aren't you supposed to be saving the world?

Hey, if you wanna make an omelette...

...you have to murder a few million eggs with biological weapons!

Wait...

[Sartain]

Anyone have problems running the Steam version of this?


Problem fixed, zonealarm conflicts with the Steam version of the game for whatever reason.

[Deadmeat1471]

Anyone have problems running the Steam version of this?


Problem fixed, zonealarm conflicts with the Steam version of the game for whatever reason.

Added to first post in case anyone else needs.

[Sartain]

Anyone have problems running the Steam version of this?


Problem fixed, zonealarm conflicts with the Steam version of the game for whatever reason.

Added to first post in case anyone else needs.

Good idea, but actually disabling it wasn't enough, you have to uninstall zonealarm completely. So far as I understand if you run with the newest ZA update (which I apparently didn't) it shouldn't be a problem though.

As for strategies, I've managed to succesfully complete the Fuel Crisis scenario once, hanging on by the skin of my teeth.
I usually find that ignoring Africa, India and the Middle East for a turn or 2 in the beginning gives me a chance to get the rest of the world working, but the fact that everyone LOATHES the Tobin Tax makes it insanely hard to actually have enough money to do enough, especially when you're trying to convert the first world countries to run their own agriculture so they don't collapse entirely under the weight of the financial bubble.
This game is HARD.
Strangely enough, my worst troubles are usually keeping regions such as Europe, Japan, North America and Oceania content, while China, Russia, Latin America and SE Asia develop into healthy, green regions...

[Deadmeat1471]

Quite realistic really, the developed world suffers more and dislikes ecochange more than nations which derive little benefit from it in comparison.

Ill edit the fix to uninstall zonealarm, thanks!

[Sartain]

Quite realistic really, the developed world suffers more and dislikes ecochange more than nations which derive little benefit from it in comparison.

Ill edit the fix to uninstall zonealarm, thanks!

I suspect one of the most important things to do at the beginning of a game is run the Eco campaigns that change the regional outlook