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[Seamas]

Yeah, if you can put it up please do...

[Graknorke]

I've seen a lot more legitimately good people playing than I have aimbots. And then people cry about someone being better than them. Assuming it's an aimbot.

[Aklyon]

Wind seems to have died down quite a bit, so its up right now.
If you can't connect, either check your various settings or blame the storm.

[thobal]

Hearing you all talk about how you all love tunneling around fills me with emotion. Murderous rage, mostly. I despise filthy tunnelers and all they represent. Fight like a man, damnit!

(Advance at a walking pace in close formation across open terrain, please.)

[Catastrophic lolcats]

I see you took your strategy notes from the Battle of the Somme. Forgive me if I don't follow you into battle. 

[Seamas]

Sweet, figured it out.  Nobody was on the server but that must be normal - Ill probably be on tonight, maybe about three hours from now, hopefully see somebody there?

[Aklyon]

If you guys can organize it, there should be some people on.

[Seamas]

Hrm.  Doesnt seem to be working for me just now. "Server connection failed".  Ah, maybe next time.

[Double A]

I was getting towards the end of a series on Netflix and spent a few days finally finishing it. Considering today is Halloween, though, I won't be able to get on tomorrow.

I'm not really sure what you guys with the ridiculous tunnel systems actually do. I'm good at placing windows and rabbitholes if the surface is hideously deformed or hilly (and sometimes when flat, depending on whether or not other people are paying attention) but I don't have the tunnel system (and defense thereof) down, possibly because I rarely have to bother. Tunnel (and trench) network examples of any kind would be immensely helpful.

[Reudh]

Double A, I can understand.

I love having a tunnel network in a hill. Four pronged, defended by three or four players. All using rifles. If you've got a mountain that is large enough to have a four way tunnel in it at diagonal angles to the angle the opposition attack from, it's SO easily defended and frankly rather hard to hit. There's also the way of making a foxhole jut out so you have maximum range of vision while still being hard to hit, simply moving backwards rendering you safe.

[Seamas]

Double A, I can understand.

I love having a tunnel network in a hill. Four pronged, defended by three or four players. All using rifles. If you've got a mountain that is large enough to have a four way tunnel in it at diagonal angles to the angle the opposition attack from, it's SO easily defended and frankly rather hard to hit. There's also the way of making a foxhole jut out so you have maximum range of vision while still being hard to hit, simply moving backwards rendering you safe.

By diagonal, you mean the regular nooks and crannies formed by a diagonal line provide cover when facing intruders?  I never thought of that, but I like it.

I'm not really sure what you guys with the ridiculous tunnel systems actually do. I'm good at placing windows and rabbitholes if the surface is hideously deformed or hilly (and sometimes when flat, depending on whether or not other people are paying attention) but I don't have the tunnel system (and defense thereof) down, possibly because I rarely have to bother. Tunnel (and trench) network examples of any kind would be immensely helpful.

I mean, mostly I just go for the intel.  One long standing-height corridor as a main artery about halfway to the enemy territory, and then where possible divert into a few op corridors at two-block height for quick tunnelling.  Always cover your tracks well, or else an inquisitive enemy may trace them back to the main vein and exploit it.  I try to remember my layout but i use colored blocks as markers when I begin to confuse myself.

Right before I pop out for the attack I always block in my immediate tracks so anyone jumping into my foxhole wont find the real Source.

[Reudh]

Double A, I can understand.

I love having a tunnel network in a hill. Four pronged, defended by three or four players. All using rifles. If you've got a mountain that is large enough to have a four way tunnel in it at diagonal angles to the angle the opposition attack from, it's SO easily defended and frankly rather hard to hit. There's also the way of making a foxhole jut out so you have maximum range of vision while still being hard to hit, simply moving backwards rendering you safe.

By diagonal, you mean the regular nooks and crannies formed by a diagonal line provide cover when facing intruders?  I never thought of that, but I like it.

I'm not really sure what you guys with the ridiculous tunnel systems actually do. I'm good at placing windows and rabbitholes if the surface is hideously deformed or hilly (and sometimes when flat, depending on whether or not other people are paying attention) but I don't have the tunnel system (and defense thereof) down, possibly because I rarely have to bother. Tunnel (and trench) network examples of any kind would be immensely helpful.

I mean, mostly I just go for the intel.  One long standing-height corridor as a main artery about halfway to the enemy territory, and then where possible divert into a few op corridors at two-block height for quick tunnelling.  Always cover your tracks well, or else an inquisitive enemy may trace them back to the main vein and exploit it.  I try to remember my layout but i use colored blocks as markers when I begin to confuse myself.

Right before I pop out for the attack I always block in my immediate tracks so anyone jumping into my foxhole wont find the real Source.

Seamas, that's what I mean. Your hitbox is partially hidden at all times if you're in a diagonal tunnel. Of course it makes movement difficult for you.

[Graknorke]

Trenches are okay, I understand and can make those. I don't get why you would build a tunnel system like that though. If it's a square with someone on each corner, what use does it actually serve? You're not going to get the intel sat in a hill.

[Reudh]

Obviously it only works on a large hill + populated server.

If it's a small server then there's no point.

[timferius]

So, I've just been following this game to see how it develops, haven't actually even played before. I was waiting for it to flesh out a bit, but it seemed to stagnate instead.
And now we know why it's stagnated.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/10/31/jagex-announce-sandbox-shooter-ace-of-spades/

So, how do you feel? Happy? Sad? Angry? Elated?