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Mindmaker

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Re: Doping in Sports: Justifiable?
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2011, 03:01:24 am »

I really don't care about sports. They are overrated and overpaid.

There has been a doping scandal here in Austria some time ago.
The women in question presented herself as weak willed, saying that she had no choice and her manager forced her to take it, resulting in her bcoming addicted.
Lucky for her that our legal system still believes in stereotypes. She just got a ban for several years, while her manager went to jail.
Having earned millions and not needing to work another day in here life, she now engages in family planning with her husband.
I doubt a male athlete would be able to pull this off. Talk about justice...

Oh, I'm so going to get spanked for this...
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Re: Doping in Sports: Justifiable?
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2011, 03:05:25 am »

I am all for doping, on the basis that I don't enjoy most sports, and more so those that doping is common in, as such it athletes dope themselves into being sterile, then over time the 'sporting' gene will be bred out of the human race, and we can get on with doing things that are more fun and productive, like physics.


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Re: Doping in Sports: Justifiable?
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2011, 03:07:08 am »

Andrei Berzin, greatest effing athlete alive, would like to have a word with ya.
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Re: Doping in Sports: Justifiable?
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2011, 03:20:45 am »

Well I shall gladdy talk with him. Over the internet. The internet that was made through intellectual ability rather then athletic ability.

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Re: Doping in Sports: Justifiable?
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2011, 07:39:56 am »

The point of the slippery slope argument isn't to say "Hey, this slope is really slippery, let's ride it all the way to the bottom, WHEEEE!"
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Re: Doping in Sports: Justifiable?
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2011, 07:41:28 am »

The point of the slippery slope argument isn't to say "Hey, this slope is really slippery, let's ride it all the way to the bottom, WHEEEE!"
But why not? D:

Well I shall gladdy talk with him. Over the internet. The internet that was made through intellectual ability rather then athletic ability.
Good. He's over at the LP subforum.
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Re: Doping in Sports: Justifiable?
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2011, 08:45:15 am »

Sorry, I've done the bad habit of breaking up the OPs post.  But I feel like there's quite a few different points to address there.
Spoiler: Response to OP (click to show/hide)

Really... I just don't see any benefit to it at all (unless you just generally hate atheletes), and lots and lots of problems.
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Re: Doping in Sports: Justifiable?
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2011, 09:13:20 am »

I like the idea. If we're going to spend billions of dollars on completely irrelevant chest-beating and advertisements for Viagra and Bud Lite, we might as well glean some useful medical research from it.
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Re: Doping in Sports: Justifiable?
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2011, 09:19:33 am »

I hate those "sports" but doping is already widespread. I ... don't care much for the sport, but I'd say those substance should be forbidden in competition, to avoid even more damage to the athlete health. Now if you want to do it at home, you... are as much an idiot that someone who does cocaine, and the argument for or against their legalization are pretty much the same.
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« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2011, 10:31:36 am »

I'm willing to bet that we would have the same people breaking the same records without the doping.
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Re: Doping in Sports: Justifiable?
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2011, 10:33:23 am »

Sports would be way more awesome to watch if everybody was doping.
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« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2011, 10:39:03 am »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M13EBl_jF0

If this guy isn't on steroids then I want to see what he'd do with the steroids.
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« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2011, 10:46:24 am »

I am all for doping, on the basis that I don't enjoy most sports, and more so those that doping is common in, as such it athletes dope themselves into being sterile, then over time the 'sporting' gene will be bred out of the human race, and we can get on with doing things that are more fun and productive, like physics.
Well I shall gladdy talk with him. Over the internet. The internet that was made through intellectual ability rather then athletic ability.

I like how your pastimes are superior to others', so much so that they should be the only pastimes.
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Re: Doping in Sports: Justifiable?
« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2011, 11:21:30 am »

I like how your pastimes are superior to others', so much so that they should be the only pastimes.
I don't think anyone's saying athletics shouldn't be a passtime. Just that it should be a passtime, rather than a multi-billion dollar money and time-sink. If you want to improve the world, the way to do it isn't to spend decades in a system devoted to consumption and advertisement building your body to be, on the cosmic scale (or even on the cheetah-scale), slightly less pathetic but still insignificant. But by all means, feel free to think that will help, it's just an opinion and not objective reality. Arts, music, and science can wait, any old animal can do those things. FOOTBAWL is where the money should be.

Yes, this is a bitter subject for me. Oh well.
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Re: Doping in Sports: Justifiable?
« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2011, 11:36:32 am »

I don't think anyone's saying athletics shouldn't be a passtime. Just that it should be a passtime, rather than a multi-billion dollar money and time-sink. If you want to improve the world, the way to do it isn't to spend decades in a system devoted to consumption and advertisement snip

Couldn't the same be said of most sectors of the entertainment industry?  Or idle pursuits in general?

Arts, music, and science can wait, any old animal can do those things. FOOTBAWL is where the money should be.

I don't see how those other interests are somehow superior to "FOOTBAWL".  Also, if your whole point is "we're uniquely able to do X, therefore we should limit our resources to X", we'll simply have to disagree.
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