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Only 2 miners are mining?
« on: April 11, 2011, 10:48:05 am »

I recently started a new world (Newest version of Dwarf Fortress), and I decided to start with 3 miners to speed up the building process. For some reason, only 2 of my miners will actually work at all, and the other one just sits there next to the wagon. How do I get that dwarf to start mining with the other two?

Please answer. This gets really annoying.
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Re: Only 2 miners are mining?
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2011, 10:52:00 am »

Did you bring enough picks? Dwarves can do many things (most of them stupid), but digging through the ground with their bare hands is not among them.

Just check the third (idle) miner... is his mining labor activated and does he have a pick in his inventory?
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Re: Only 2 miners are mining?
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2011, 11:06:41 am »

Did you bring enough picks? Dwarves can do many things (most of them stupid), but digging through the ground with their bare hands is not among them.

Just check the third (idle) miner... is his mining labor activated and does he have a pick in his inventory?

Thanks for the tip. I'll check that now.

EDIT: FFFUUUUUUUUU-

Only two picks T-T

I could have sworn I packed 3.

How do I make more picks?
« Last Edit: April 11, 2011, 11:08:26 am by Sting_Auer »
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Re: Only 2 miners are mining?
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2011, 11:14:46 am »

1 bar metal (copper, iron, bronze, steel) + 1 bar coke (charcoal?) at a forge, made by a weaponsmith.

(I use magma forges so much that I don't remember which fuel to use.)

Some folks embark with zero picks and just pack along bars of metal, fuel, an anvil, and 2-3 blocks of stone.
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Re: Only 2 miners are mining?
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2011, 11:15:52 am »

1 bar metal (copper, iron, bronze, steel) + 1 bar coke (charcoal?) at a forge, made by a weaponsmith.

(I use magma forges so much that I don't remember which fuel to use.)

Some folks embark with zero picks and just pack along bars of metal, fuel, an anvil, and 2-3 blocks of stone.

How do you use a magma forge?
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Re: Only 2 miners are mining?
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2011, 11:21:31 am »

How do you use a magma forge?
Funny Answer: Very carefully.

Short Answer: Place it over magma, schedule job, wait.

Long Answer: Channel the middle-left (or middle-right, or both) block below the forge out to reveal magma on the level below, then build the forge so that the impassable middle-left (or middle-right, or both) block covers the hole. Then schedule job and wait.
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Re: Only 2 miners are mining?
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2011, 11:25:46 am »

So I just tunnel magma under the center of the forge? Kind of like a well over water? cool. That is WAY simple than I thought it would be.

Now I just need to find Magma...

To pump Magma up, would I just take a water wheel attached to stone pumps to carry magma up? Also, after that, how do I keep the magma from overflowing? Should I make a second tunnel that lets the magma flow back down into the reservoir?

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Re: Only 2 miners are mining?
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2011, 11:28:59 am »

So I just tunnel magma under the center of the forge? Kind of like a well over water? cool. That is WAY simple than I thought it would be. Now I just need to find Magma...
Dig down. Problem solved.

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To pump Magma up, would I just take a water wheel attached to stone pumps to carry magma up? Also, after that, how do I keep the magma from overflowing? Should I make a second tunnel that lets the magma flow back down into the reservoir?
I build my forges right above the magma sea, but to each their own. Yes, you can pump magma, but you need to understand the wiki articles on pressure VERY WELL before you start pumping !!FUN!! around.
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Re: Only 2 miners are mining?
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2011, 11:32:52 am »

So I just tunnel magma under the center of the forge? Kind of like a well over water? cool. That is WAY simple than I thought it would be.

I find that it's usually easier to just build the smelters, kilns, glassworks and forges down near the lava rather than the other way around.

The second method allows you to make everything compact in one place near your main area, but it usually means waiting until the second or third year until you build enough pumps (or dig out a magma piston).

I usually create another dining room and dormitory area down there as well, creating almost a secondary fort.
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Re: Only 2 miners are mining?
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2011, 11:37:09 am »

So I just tunnel magma under the center of the forge? Kind of like a well over water? cool. That is WAY simple than I thought it would be. Now I just need to find Magma...
Dig down. Problem solved.

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To pump Magma up, would I just take a water wheel attached to stone pumps to carry magma up? Also, after that, how do I keep the magma from overflowing? Should I make a second tunnel that lets the magma flow back down into the reservoir?
I build my forges right above the magma sea, but to each their own. Yes, you can pump magma, but you need to understand the wiki articles on pressure VERY WELL before you start pumping !!FUN!! around.


Yeah, I had a lot of FUN on a previous save when I tried to make a housing section on a base. I accidentally tunneled under a lake and flooded part of my base. Luckily it was a very small lake, and the water was absorbed into the ground after a few in-game days.

Oh, and I read the wiki articles. From what I understand, lava flows SIMILARLY to water, except it behaves like syrup does in rel life. thick syrup inside of a U-bend won't flow all the way up the other side most of the time unless outside pressure is involved. Lava flows very similarly. Am I correct?

Anyway., what you are saying is that the lava can be any amount of Z-levels down, but still reachable by the forge? Well then, I guess I dont' need to pump it unless I plan on building other stuff beneath the forge.
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Re: Only 2 miners are mining?
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2011, 11:39:09 am »

Anyway., what you are saying is that the lava can be any amount of Z-levels down, but still reachable by the forge? Well then, I guess I dont' need to pump it unless I plan on building other stuff beneath the forge.
No, the magma needs to be on the Z-level directly beneath your forge.
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Re: Only 2 miners are mining?
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2011, 11:52:36 am »

Anyway., what you are saying is that the lava can be any amount of Z-levels down, but still reachable by the forge? Well then, I guess I dont' need to pump it unless I plan on building other stuff beneath the forge.
No, the magma needs to be on the Z-level directly beneath your forge.

oh okay.

Thanks for all the help everyone!
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Re: Only 2 miners are mining?
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2011, 03:43:10 pm »

I prefer to just build forges, raw ore storage, smelted bar storage, sand bag storage, uncut glass down by the magma (be it a sea, or a pool, or whatever).  Most of the time in my worlds that's down around Z80-Z100 with the surface up around Z135-Z150.

So the forges go down at Z80-Z100 and living quarters go about 10 levels above that, if there's room between the caverns.  Trade depot is about 10 layers below the surface, and my quantum dump pile is between the residences and the forges.  Since I use a central stairshaft design from top to bottom (possibly with 1 or 2 bends to side-step a cavern) it's only 50-80 steps from the forges to the surface.  Anything that gets used for trade or defense has stockpiles up near the surface.

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