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[Phmcw]

haha, yeah, rape only happen to women, because you know, there is no gays in the enemy army, and raping a men isn't a good way to ruin his self esteem. Actually, aren't a few people in trouble for their questionable treatment of Iraqi prisoners, complete with sodomy?

Edit: ho yes, and actually you don't have to be gay (ie feel an appeal in men for loving matters) to rape men.

[Sheb]

Well, there is much less men-raping than women-raping....

[Mindmaker]

Almost neglible, I dare say.

[Zangi]

Wouldn't men be even less likely to report rape?  Even bigger manly stigma?

[Phmcw]

Male on male rape has historically been shrouded in secrecy due to the stigma men associate with being raped by other men. According to psychologist Dr Sarah Crome fewer than one in ten male-male rapes are reported. As a group, male rape victims reported a lack of services and support, and legal systems are often ill equipped to deal with this type of crime.

Quote from wikipedia.

Rape is a common form of abuse and I expect it to be widely used against men. It is in American prisons. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_rape

[Farmerbob]

To me, if anyone got shot, and they were still alive, I would try to save them.. Be it man or woman.

And then the sniper gets you. And if I were a snake-eating pants-shitter, I'd target the women in the enemy unit, preferably in the legs, while they were crossing an open area.

Then you would be silly.  You target the officers, NCO's, radio holders, map holders, or the enemies with pistols if nothing else.  The ones that know the plans and give the orders.  Most women who can meet the physical requirements for infantry work aren't going to look very feminine in full battle dress and light ballistic armor with the stress of battle movements written across their faces.  Sure, you might get lucky and ID a couple, but in the meantime the other 25 members of that platoon (with their NCOs and officers intact) are going to be eating your position for lunch.

[Vector]

Edit: ho yes, and actually you don't have to be gay (ie feel an appeal in men for loving matters) to rape men.

... The topic was women in the infantry, not gays in the infantry or men being raped in the infantry, or homosexual attraction in men raping men.  Rape culture refers to rape in general, not only rape of women.  It even--gasp--covers women raping men.

However, as far as I know rape is still overwhelmingly a women's problem.  If that's not the case, and it's just a societal problem... well, then, that's good to know.  But frankly, I don't know what your statement that men get raped too has to do with the topic at hand.

[CoughDrop]

Just like the abortion thread, this too has segued into rape.

Why am I not surprised?

[Phmcw]

Don't all go berserk about it. It's just that "ho noes women cannot join the military else they get raped should they be made prisoner is a lousy argument".

[Leafsnail]

From what we've read on the thread... I don't think it's "when they're taken prisoner" that we're worried about.

[Phmcw]

Yeah that... ok if your army cannot enforce a "no rape" policy on his female element, don't send it abroad. You will have trouble with the population. Think of ... every last american operation that had regular troops on the ground.
Maybe it's a media thing, but I'm under the impression that of all nato army, the American is the one with the most rape problems.
Maybe introducing women in the military may solve it (in the long term).

[Tellemurius]

Ok so back to OP, whats the problem letting women into the army, i wouldn't care any less as long they can do their jobs.

[Strife26]

Women can already do just about every job in the army, with the exception of a very small number of combat arms jobs (infantry, armor, cav scout are the only ones that come to mind). I am against the inclusion of women for the reasons I stated waaay back in this thread.

[Taricus]

And that's able to be sorted out by separated platoons.

[Tellemurius]

And that's able to be sorted out by separated platoons.
Thats segregation.