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[Strife26]

Note that I'm perfectly fine with women in the military, just not in combat arms (or on subs). I don't see any difference between a female cook and a male cook. I just see a difference between needing one tent or two tents for 'em.

[Urist is dead tome]

Indeed, I believe the most kills sniper record is still held by a Russian women from WW2.

That's not even close to true. The record is held by Simo Hayha, a Finn who killed five-hundred and five men in a timeline of about one hundred days. Sorry but this one just seems like an attempt to tell to poke a hole in my argument.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_Hayha

If women are to serve, how many do you think could keep up with the men? How many do you think would be able to pass special forces training such as the Navy SEALs program or the Green Berets? How many Muslim extremists will surrender to women? How many women will be targeted by snipers because they know that men will come racing toward the injured woman?

Okay, so that covers direct infantry units, now the rest of the

at all

Go on...

[Vector]

Now I am also of the belief that women are indeed the weaker sex and are to be both treated and respected as such.

Am I?  Now, whatever gave you that opinion?

[Gorjo MacGrymm]

Gorjo: No. The most sniper kills is easily by Simmo. He had multiple hundreds.

So did the women I have been thinking off.  Been so long since I have seen the documentary on her tho.  Your probably right.

ninjd by Urist,  ok  Its Simo Hayha.  And no, it had nothing to do with your post Urist.

[Criptfeind]

Go on...

No, that was a invitation for you to 'go on.'

You said you did not want to see them at all, but all the reasons you gave are only issues in a direct infantry situation.

[Il Palazzo]

See, Urist, it wasn't that hard. Next time put your opinion in the opening post and you're gold.

Now I am also of the belief that women are indeed the weaker sex and are to be both treated and respected as such. But I also have to agree with Strife26 that when it comes to the military political correctness needs to be thrown out the window.

If women are to serve, how many do you think could keep up with the men? How many do you think would be able to pass special forces training such as the Navy SEALs program or the Green Berets?

I think its perfectly reasonable for women to enter combat.  But I also beleive they should be able to meet the same physical requirements as men to do so.  Not because I am sexist, but because the battle field doesnt care what sex you are and the skills required for victory are the skills required for victory.

Problem solved.

[Urist is dead tome]

Now I am also of the belief that women are indeed the weaker sex and are to be both treated and respected as such.

Am I?  Now, whatever gave you that opinion?

That's what I was taught. Of course, there are exceptions to this rule.

And I had a feeling this would lead to me becoming even less popular.

Gorjo: No. The most sniper kills is easily by Simmo. He had multiple hundreds.

So did the women I have been thinking off.  Been so long since I have seen the documentary on her tho.  Your probably right.

ninjd by Urist,  ok  Its Simo Hayha.  And no, it had nothing to do with your post Urist.

Now that's just being spiteful.

Go on...

No, that was a invitation for you to 'go on.'

You said you did not want to see them at all, but all the reasons you gave are only issues in a direct infantry situation.

And women aren't at risk in non-combat jobs while in enemy countries?

[Ochita]

Now I am also of the belief that women are indeed the weaker sex and are to be both treated and respected as such.

Am I?  Now, whatever gave you that opinion?

Urist you are treading a fine line now. Women are equal to men, and in no way are they weaker. Men and Women are equal, and so, humans should be respected as such, not just men or ladies.

[Urist is dead tome]

Now I am also of the belief that women are indeed the weaker sex and are to be both treated and respected as such.

Am I?  Now, whatever gave you that opinion?

Urist you are treading a fine line now. Women are equal to men, and in no way are they weaker. Men and Women are equal, and so, humans should be respected as such, not just men or ladies.

How many women are equal to men in terms of physical strength? If you were to conduct a study as to which is stronger the result may surprise you.

[Taricus]

I don't care who's shooting, just as long as they are shooting.

[Farmerbob]

What I'm about to say is going to get me booed off stage:

Can anyone name a few lady war heroes?

Betsy Ross *Doh!*
Joan of Arc

I was thinking Molly Pitcher but Betsy Ross came out.
A few others wandering around in my head that I can't bring to the surface of my mind right now.

[Realmfighter]

And women aren't at risk in non-combat jobs while in enemy countries?

And Men are safe?

How many women are equal to men in terms of physical strength? If you were to conduct a study as to which is stronger the result may surprise you.

How many are capable of reaching the level of Men if they so chose?

A Whole lot more then one.

[Ochita]

Now I am also of the belief that women are indeed the weaker sex and are to be both treated and respected as such.

Am I?  Now, whatever gave you that opinion?

Urist you are treading a fine line now. Women are equal to men, and in no way are they weaker. Men and Women are equal, and so, humans should be respected as such, not just men or ladies.

How many women are equal to men in terms of physical strength? If you were to conduct a study as to which is stronger the result may surprise you.

Well. Physical strength? Brute force isn't everything you know. And yeah, women can reach the same strength as men, so thats an invalid argument.

[Vector]

That's what I was taught. Of course, there are exceptions to this rule.

And I had a feeling this would lead to me becoming even less popular.

Your feeling was right.

Now, if there are exceptions to this rule, did you ever think that perhaps that very rule was creating the rule, and that being treated as weaker and/or lesser makes weaker and lesser individuals?

How many women are equal to men in terms of physical strength? If you were to conduct a study as to which is stronger the result may surprise you.

*shrug*

Physical strength matters less and less nowadays, dude.  For serious.

[Willfor]

A group of servicewomen have filed a lawsuit on the subject, which you can read here. (I warn you, the records of these events are some of the most enraging, horrific things I've ever encountered. You read this lawsuit at your own risk.)

I hope those women get a lot of fucking money for that. I'm only at the fifth one down and I am of the opinion that many more jobs should be lost over this than there ever will be.