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[Mechanoid]

Srsly you guys, i'm posting from my Wii. Slow to type, unfortunetly...

...
Just imagine DF on this console. The neighbors would crap themselves when they see a seige... Or map generation!
Good times ahead, people.  

[Grek]

The real question is this: Can you play dwarf fortress with a Wii?

[Toady One]

WiiDF doesn't sound all that flattering.  Weedy F.

[Elshar]

I'm rather impressed that you went through all that effort to post from your wii. I got mine online the day I got it, went to google once and have never tried to do web stuff with it since.

[Jaqie Fox]

Hm. seeing as how there is already a linux port for the wii, it is possible that DF would run on it... but with only ~88MB ram and 700 some odd Mhz of PPC CPU someone would have to do some serious work on the source code to get it to run well, possibly using the ATI GPU for some of the calcs... but since it does have bluetooth built in it is physically possible to get a standard (bluetooth) mouse and keyboard working with it.

This is actually one of the reasons I recommended to Toady that he try to eventually convert over to a multithreaded game, as the PS3 is a much beefier machine but the Cell CPU is quite potent... if the apps are coded to utilize many CPUs working in parallel.

But I digress.

Ive never even looked sideways at the Wii. How is it, worth the $250ish?

[Mechanoid]

Back on the computer now.
It is a pain in the ass to type out even short words, expecially words that have letters on opposite sides of the keyboard... For example, several of them were just used.
That, and the Wii is pretty much like being at work; dont do anything 'naughty' on it, or you may get busted. Last thing i want is the console banned for me saying curses...   :roll:

Yes, it is worth the $250ish, so long as you can get ahold of games that are worth their price... Just like any other gaming system, though -- if there's shit-all for games for the system, it doesn't matter how good the console is or is not... you dont have any good games to showcase the abilities of the system!)

And finally, i'm pretty sure that Dwarf Fortress is fairly "Requirement Free" after all, so long as you're able to download and play a pre-gen'd map, you dont have to suffer through the possibly +3 hour long generation process... On a 700Mhz CPU. Should be good for what? 50-70 dwarves in a small fort? Enough to get a few basic nobles, at least. [Stack recombination would also definitely cut down on the amount of data the game needs to handle; the game would slow when there's 30 one-peice items around, but would likely speed-up when there's just 1 thirty-peice item stack.]

[ May 26, 2007: Message edited by: Mechanoid ]

[Jaqie Fox]

The CPU speed isn't the big inhibiting factor, it's that it is PPC architecture, meaning not x86 code compatible... that and a total of 88MB ram, video main etc...

[puke]

the wii isnt about graphics or processor power.  people that want that have pc's or one of the other new game systems.  the wii is about fun and innovative games, which it delivers on.

nintendo has always been pretty spot on with the fun and innovative.

and no, DF on the wii is a dumb idea.  it would have to be LF, as the leprechauns were always the wii people.

[Slartibartfast]

DF on the Wii is a stupid idea because it would be completely pointless.

[Jaqie Fox]

Since when is it pointless to play a game on a game console?
Then again, you could take the position that all games are pointless, but there's an old rhyme for that. "All work and no play makes jack a dull boy [/ jane a dull girl]."

[ May 26, 2007: Message edited by: Jaqie Fox ]

[Grue]

Because most of console games are stupid. As opposed to PC games. DF has no place among the stupid console games.

[Slartibartfast]

Also, there's the part where there are zero advantages for running DF on the Wii, whereas there are several disadvantages for doing so. (when compared to running DF on a computer)

Also, no straw man arguements please    (kthx bye )

[ May 26, 2007: Message edited by: Slartibartfast ]

[Sean Mirrsen]

There's one little thing bothering me. With the amount of control keys in DF, how would you fare within the game? The Wii-Mote doesn't look like it has quite enough buttons, and mouse controls are hardly possible in the near future. As for keyboard...  you yourself noted how hard it is to navigate a virtual keyboard.

[puke]

man, i thought my wii people joke was funny.  i like a large number of console games.  theyre fun.  i dislike how many games are exclusive to single systems, i think it hurts the industry.  then again, thats just commercialism.  

but seriously, there woulnt really be any market for this kind of game among console audineces.

lets not get into a platform-type pissing contest here.

[Mechanoid]

The Wii Remote is as good a mouse as any, and the (1) and (2) buttons could be tied to menus, along with A, B, Z, and the C buttons. The directional pad could move the view /cursor around. Now, if the menu items could be clicked on, then that would significantly improve the GUI functionality, REMOVING THE NEED FOR A KEYBOARD. Or at least, most of the need for a keyboard; there'd still probably be a key to bring up a list of all the commands that arn't listed, and key combinations would probably be needed for a few things.

quote:Originally posted by Grue:
DF has no place among the stupid console games.

If DF was there, it might teach the devs of those 'stupid' console games a lesson in how to make a proper game.

For everyone saying the system doesn't have enough memory to run DF: Here is the Wii technical specifics.

Just so everyone knows, the memory prefix is not Megabyte, it's Mebibyte. As in binary. Here is the rough conversion. Basically, 88 Mebibytes is actually somewhere around 96 Megabytes. I loaded DF and looked at the memory cost in the Task Manager, and with a moderately sized fortress the game is at about 70 Megs in memory... So memory isn't an issue, at least for fortresses that remain small.
Granted, it's not the best, but i think adventure mode would work quite well.

... Of course, if the difference between the CPU in my computer and the CPU in the Wii is too different for DF to run properly on the Wii (or is outright impossible) then forget this thread ever existed.
I simply found it amusing that i could post here from my couch.

[ May 26, 2007: Message edited by: Mechanoid ]