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[Chandos]

Does anyone remember Birthright? The computer game version where you could rule your kingdom (small patch of land among hundreds of other kingdoms) like in a strategy game, but you could also jump down to a RPG mode where you could do quests and crawl dungeons within the game world. I'm wondering if there are any other games like that. Any ideas?

[Neonivek]

Well there is this game where you run a shop... and you jump into an RPG to restock.

[Biag]

Fable III! /troll

The endgame of Mount & Blade: Warband is kind of like that. You can eventually rise pretty high in a faction or start your own, and the whole time there's quite a bit of fun slaughtering to do.

[Sartain]

Does anyone remember Birthright? The computer game version where you could rule your kingdom (small patch of land among hundreds of other kingdoms) like in a strategy game, but you could also jump down to a RPG mode where you could do quests and crawl dungeons within the game world. I'm wondering if there are any other games like that. Any ideas?

I remember that game vividly. I still recall it as one of the best ideas ever for a strategy RPG hybrid, although the game itself was less than stellar.
Unfortunately, I've never found anything that was similiar to it.
Also, once you got Farids Coffer Of The Realm you'd pretty much won the game

[Majestic7]

Birthright! <3 Too bad the adventure graphics make my eyes bleed nowadays. Hmm, I supposed Sword of Aragon is a little similar. Despite the name, it has nothing to do with LOTR - it is AD&D strategy game from the eighties, available from abandonware sites. Umm, there is another old game Disciplines of Steel that combines strategy with classic RPG elements, though you start with just adventuring. Unfortunately it is devilishly hard and requires great patience to get anywhere. You get exp and loot really slow and have your butt kicked constantly. Mount & Blade has many good mods where you end up running a kingdom, like Prophecy of Pendor and Sword of Damocles.You know, I kind of hoped Elemental had been a game like this, too bad it wasn't. 

[Sartain]

Birthright! <3 Too bad the adventure graphics make my eyes bleed nowadays. Hmm, I supposed Sword of Aragon is a little similar. Despite the name, it has nothing to do with LOTR - it is AD&D strategy game from the eighties, available from abandonware sites. Umm, there is another old game Disciplines of Steel that combines strategy with classic RPG elements, though you start with just adventuring. Unfortunately it is devilishly hard and requires great patience to get anywhere. You get exp and loot really slow and have your butt kicked constantly. Mount & Blade has many good mods where you end up running a kingdom, like Prophecy of Pendor and Sword of Damocles.You know, I kind of hoped Elemental had been a game like this, too bad it wasn't.

Aragon was a kingdom in the middle-ages.

AragoRn is a LOTR character 

[Majestic7]

Aragon was a kingdom in the middle-ages.

AragoRn is a LOTR character 

Well, the game has absolutely nothing to do with the Spanish/Catalan kingdom either. I just thought most people will think about LOTR when seeing the name, the lacking R could have been typo after all. 

[Chandos]

I remember that game vividly. I still recall it as one of the best ideas ever for a strategy RPG hybrid, although the game itself was less than stellar.
Unfortunately, I've never found anything that was similiar to it.
Also, once you got Farids Coffer Of The Realm you'd pretty much won the game

It was one of the buggiest games I ever played, probably owing to its ambitious scope.

Birthright! <3 Too bad the adventure graphics make my eyes bleed nowadays. Hmm, I supposed Sword of Aragon is a little similar. Despite the name, it has nothing to do with LOTR - it is AD&D strategy game from the eighties, available from abandonware sites. Umm, there is another old game Disciplines of Steel that combines strategy with classic RPG elements, though you start with just adventuring. Unfortunately it is devilishly hard and requires great patience to get anywhere. You get exp and loot really slow and have your butt kicked constantly. Mount & Blade has many good mods where you end up running a kingdom, like Prophecy of Pendor and Sword of Damocles.You know, I kind of hoped Elemental had been a game like this, too bad it wasn't. 

I played Mount & Blade in its early days, it didn't have any kingdom running to it at that time though. How deep is that side of the game now?

[Ampersand]

It isn't that much expanded now, but several mods multiply the depth considerably. The depth in vanilla mainly comes from relations with lords in your kingdom. Mods like Prophecy of Pendor, Brytenwalda, and Blood and Steel go long ways to add additional ways in which you interact with your realm, among other things.

[Majestic7]

I played Mount & Blade in its early days, it didn't have any kingdom running to it at that time though. How deep is that side of the game now?

Those two mods I mentioned have running your own fiefs and underlings in important role. You can set laws that affect the entire realm, including what kind of armies your vassals take to the field. There are multiple buildings and religions etc. I'm sure there are other mods with similar content, but those two are very popular and the ones I've played the most. I'll pretty much move on to Warband once both of those mods do the same . (Plus there is the excellent Last Days LOTR-mod that is being update to vanilla M&B, not Warband.) If you already have M&B, then it costs nothing to get those mods from the home forums.

[jnecros]

Birthright was good times! My first post on these forums nearly 4 years ago, I asked the same question as the op here..I wish there were other games like it

[Majestic7]

There is always King of the Dragon Pass. It is not exactly the same, it is pretty much unique, but... it has atmosphere, it is great, it makes me drool, I luvsies itzzz like Gollum luvz the Precious.

[Astral]

Certain games of the Romance of the Three Kingdoms series have this; you can be the ruler of a power, resign and go run off doing quests/etc for a while, building up a vast personal fortune, and start a new empire yourself (or with a couple trusted friends) or be a vassal to a greater power.

[Deadmeat1471]

Certain games of the Romance of the Three Kingdoms series have this; you can be the ruler of a power, resign and go run off doing quests/etc for a while, building up a vast personal fortune, and start a new empire yourself (or with a couple trusted friends) or be a vassal to a greater power.

This. Do not play the newest ones. Ever.

[Chandos]

RoTK was one of my favorite series many many years ago. I guess I liked the same thing about it as I did with Birthright, being that tiny little kingdom/faction among many others, and working your way up.

Anyhow, I might give M&B a try again, although I would prefer a strategy game with a RPG option rather than vice versa.

Also, wouldn't a roguelike Birthright remake be uber cool?