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[Aqizzar]

Honestly, we do have the cleanest discussions on "difficult issues" that I've ever seen, despite the extreme diversity of the people here.  Having argued with folks over at xkcd, I can say that the tolerance here seems a lot higher for a. discussing politely and b. discussing passionately.

I guess the main thing I feel is that it's not necessary to be hyper-rational here, where "rational" means "cold."

I know I'm not exactly keeping things calm around here myself, despite keeping Toady in my heart and signature.  But I've always thought you can have perfectly rational discourse, or indeed in my case diatribes, and still make them colorful and entertaining.  We're human after all, it should be something worth reading.  Whether I've succeeded on either count I'm forbidden from believing, let alone saying so, but I do my best to be worth listening to.

Also, our Mafia is better :I

And now you know why the troublemakers... quietly leave so quickly.  They get shown the door.

[nenjin]

We buy them digital cement shoes as a going away present.

[Leafsnail]

I actually find it awesome how our mafia arguments can get so fiery in comparison to the rest of the forum. Sure, that's how the game is played, but the net result is that it becomes the most violent, blood lusting, Khorne Armok worshiping board here when the players are in game. I find it an exciting change of pace, not to mention a great stresskiller.

The more I think about it, the more it seems like some kind of Fight Club to me.

[Vector]

The more I think about it, the more it seems like some kind of Fight Club to me.

It basically is.

[Armok]

Oh yeah, I kinda forgot that I'm hosting the VN export over on my website. I think. I haven't checked on it in a long time.

Errr, no. You threw a tantrum and deleted 90% of it remember?

There was a VN export?!

Oh, yea that to, althou thats completly unrelated to what I were talking abaut.

[Gorjo MacGrymm]

The forums are really not that clean. In fact, most of the forums I visit are a lot nicer. These forums have sort of become undiscussable lately, since everything reaches 5 pages in a day, most of it just idle conversation.

DF hardly filters out the trolls, there are certainly plenty here. A troll is not born out of stupidity, it is born of a mixture of boredom and anti-social tendencies. Anyone who understands DF has to have plenty of time on their hands and tend to be just a bit sadistic.

Toady does do an excellent job of moderating the forums, though.

I can understand Muz's point to a certain level.  Since the old "Simply nonsense" (cant remember is thats the right name) forum was closed, alot of jibberish has crept into general discusion (penguins...................). 

But, its still better than most other places I have been, mostly by Toady being as hands off as possible while encouraging discussion.  Some forums have truly nazi moderators that amount to nothing more than thought police.  I think we all know this intrinsicaly, and, therefore we try to not go overboard on adhoc trolling here.  But, sometimes, we just cant help ourselves.  Were usually forgiven (after taklng our beatings from the other members- lol) because we truly mean no ill will to anyone and want everyone to enjoy DF in all its glory.  IMO, the people who get perma-banned find reasons to actually hate other forum members.

[Max White]

Yea, if we weren't a forgiving community, then every post I ever made would be met with several people telling me to shut up and unplug my computer from the internet.

[Zrk2]

Max, what the fuck? I hear the grizzlies are starving, you should go run through the mountains slathered in bacon grease.

In all seriousness we are so 'clean' because we self *Vector* moderate *Vector* ourselves *Vector* fairly well.

[Vector]

In all seriousness we are so 'clean' because we self *Vector* moderate *Vector* ourselves *Vector* fairly well.

>___________________________________>

Well, I'm glad to hear that my Powers of Angry Discourse are at least causing some folks some entertainment.

[Zrk2]

I meant that in a serious way. In that when ever we begin spouting off sexism you pop in and shut us down, reducing the assholery of the forums. Well done, I think the interwebs could use more of you.

[Max White]

Can't be racist, can't be sexist, can't even pay out Ochita! What is this, some sort of perfect socialist utopia built into the side of a mountain where men can wear dresses, nobles make unreasonable demands, and we are all equal? Like we will ever see that...

[Jackrabbit]

I had a typed a post here and then decided it wasn't really an addition to the topic, nor interesting, nor funny.

So I deleted it and didn't post it.

That's the kind of people we are. 

I do this so much, it's not funny.

I'm jumping all over the thread here, but I wanted to say yeah, everyone seems to be doing this, and I am guilty as well. Also, this forum is more foul mouthed than others? Admittedly, I swear with every other word but I don't go on others enough to know if that's abnormal.

I'm in trouble, it seems.

[Angel Of Death]

I had a typed a post here and then decided it wasn't really an addition to the topic, nor interesting, nor funny.

So I deleted it and didn't post it.

That's the kind of people we are. 

I do this so much, it's not funny.

I'm jumping all over the thread here, but I wanted to say yeah, everyone seems to be doing this, and I am guilty as well. Also, this forum is more foul mouthed than others? Admittedly, I swear with every other word but I don't go on others enough to know if that's abnormal.

I'm in trouble, it seems.

These forums aren't really too fucking foulmouthed...

[Max White]

I swear a little, but not an unreasonable amount... Really, we keep things more clean then a friendly visit to the pub, so it isn't like we suffer from 'internetitis' where as soon as we are online we become more load mouth jerks then we normally are.

[optimumtact]

I swear a little, but not an unreasonable amount... Really, we keep things more clean then a friendly visit to the pub, so it isn't like we suffer from 'internetitis' where as soon as we are online we become more load mouth jerks then we normally are.

SHUTUP AND UNPLUG YOUR ENTIRE COUNTRY

edit: Though I guess your filter does that anyway.