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What political party are you a part of?

Republican
- 8 (7%)
Democrat
- 16 (13.9%)
Other Party (There are more than two? Amazing!)
- 20 (17.4%)
FUCK the political party system!
- 24 (20.9%)
I'm one of them foriegnerz and I'm just voting so I can annoy Heli
- 47 (40.9%)

Total Members Voted: 115


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Rilder

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Re: AMERICAN Political Parties Poll (GTFO Europe!)
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2011, 11:39:01 am »

We should destroy every single political party and start over from scratch.  Nuke the site from orbit, as it were. Its the only way to be sure.
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Re: AMERICAN Political Parties Poll (GTFO Europe!)
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2011, 11:40:40 am »

I'm thinking of starting a local party. The Greater Austin Area Statehood party. Mainly so we no longer have to deal with being part of Texas. Ehh, Aqizzar?
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Re: AMERICAN Political Parties Poll (GTFO Europe!)
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2011, 11:41:09 am »

liberals

That word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
It was in response to Fayrik's post. We're talking European politics now.
Hence the smiley. ;)
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Re: AMERICAN Political Parties Poll (GTFO Europe!)
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2011, 11:43:11 am »

Actually, why don't we talk about Italian Politics?
Should be more interesting!
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« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2011, 11:44:29 am »

Well, I think that Italy would greatly benefit if the Redshirts took over again.
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Re: AMERICAN Political Parties Poll (GTFO Europe!)
« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2011, 11:44:41 am »

Actually, why don't we talk about Italian Politics?
Should be more interesting!

German politics!
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Re: AMERICAN Political Parties Poll (GTFO Europe!)
« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2011, 12:00:50 pm »

Actually, why don't we talk about Italian Politics?
Should be more interesting!

German politics!
Pffft, have there been half as many sex scandals in Germany recently?
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Re: AMERICAN Political Parties Poll (GTFO Europe!)
« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2011, 12:04:14 pm »

Being a Libertatian (although one who doesn't like the Libertarian Party very much), I picked other. I think the two-party system is begining to kill the country, personally. The Democrats and Republicans are so intent on fighting each other that they take a page from Godzilla's book and wreck everything in the process.
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« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2011, 12:05:23 pm »

the way the US system is set up, the tea party would lose a whole lot of power by registering as their own party, but I've heard a whole ton of tea partiers say how much they despise the Republicans (and the Democrats). But by keeping the "R" next to their name, they knock out the main opponent of their base in the primaries and get a ton of free votes.

Their biggest problem in being considered a party of their own is their lack of central leadership and planks.

So when Gorjo says he's a member of the Tea Party, theirs quite a few different ways to interpret it. the only widely accepted issues seem to be "reduce debt", "no public healthcare", "no gay marriage", and "limit or remove environmental protection legislation"

So, gorjo, what do you believe the planks of the tea party to be? And how does it differ from those of the Republican party?
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Re: AMERICAN Political Parties Poll (GTFO Europe!)
« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2011, 12:05:56 pm »

Looking at US politics, it seems like the US would be a happier political place if the two parties had at least one split each. The current setup is just causing everyone grief and is quite undemocratic.
Their current setup is far better than what we have in Europe. In Europe parties are monolithical entities, and internal dissent is nigh-nonexistant (which turns law voting into little more than a Magic the Gathering contest), whereas in the US you can often find senators of a party voting for or against resolutions following their personal ethos. Plus independents make it to US  governing bodies far more often than in Europe.
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Re: AMERICAN Political Parties Poll (GTFO Europe!)
« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2011, 12:11:24 pm »

If I recall correctly, there are only two independents in the Senate at the moment. That isn't much in a group of 100, and the two of them are apparently just Democrats who don't call themselves as such.
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« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2011, 12:27:07 pm »

Looking at US politics, it seems like the US would be a happier political place if the two parties had at least one split each. The current setup is just causing everyone grief and is quite undemocratic.
Their current setup is far better than what we have in Europe. In Europe parties are monolithical entities, and internal dissent is nigh-nonexistant (which turns law voting into little more than a Magic the Gathering contest), whereas in the US you can often find senators of a party voting for or against resolutions following their personal ethos. Plus independents make it to US  governing bodies far more often than in Europe.

"Far better" is a wide stretch. Both systems have their advantages and significant issues.
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« Reply #42 on: April 08, 2011, 12:47:51 pm »

This is starting to remind me of the comic "scandinavia and the world"

http://satwcomic.com/
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Re: AMERICAN Political Parties Poll (GTFO Europe!)
« Reply #43 on: April 08, 2011, 01:09:58 pm »

I actually do like the fact that political affiliation in the US is not supported by law, and the enshrined nature of political parties in many euro countries is imo a downside.

I simply think the US system has its own downsides, but can be improved a lot on its own merits without copying the euro system.
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Re: AMERICAN Political Parties Poll (GTFO Europe!)
« Reply #44 on: April 08, 2011, 01:14:07 pm »

Bleh.  I don't like either, so I vote for "move to Europe and bury head in Poland, France, or Germany."
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