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lordnincompoop

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Re: BYOR 7 - Night 2: How Many Times Zones In Russia?
« Reply #345 on: May 05, 2011, 03:21:46 pm »

Jack AT, why not do something about it instead of just commenting? Or any you just too busy enjoying the mislynch?

FINALLY!  Someone tries to do something!  Seriously, this is why I extended that time!

This sounds forced to me.

"Why not do something about it": What should I have done?  Asked the lurkers more questions, while they were still needing to answer many already?  Tried to find something suspicious in posts I didn't already find suspicious, and ask about that?  Called for everyone to be prodded?  Extended again, which, at the time, looked futile (seriously, people wasted a 4 day extension, which makes me less willing to extend again)?

"Too busy enjoying the mislynch": Guess who started the request for the first requested extension, for the whole "we are not lynching someone with two votes out of three at this stage of the game" reason?

Yes, actually. Look over the posts again, post more questions, start putting extra pressure in.

And why did you not do anything with that extension, I wonder?



I'm going to say this here: Will reformat my drive and reimage it, and install another Linux distro (I'll have to set that up too) tomorrow on the 6th, so I probs won't be able to post much then.
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Re: BYOR 7 - Night 2: How Many Times Zones In Russia?
« Reply #346 on: May 05, 2011, 03:47:52 pm »

I don't want deliberately create no-lynch situation, but really i would feel bad about dying like that :\

Akhier: Let's see: You were  inconsistent in your D1 role explanations
...Akhier never claimed.  Ever.  There was just an assumption by many that he was a dragon, and a strange assumption that he was scum because of that.  He argued against being lynched for possibly being a dragon by pointing out that, frankly, dragons might not be on the same team and that neither a scum nor a townie would admit to having access to any sort of chat.

Finally, I think I may have just found what "Outsider" means:

Outsider - You win if [NONSTANDARD WIN CON]. (Outsiders may have any wincon, or even no wincon. This may or may not end the game.)
About Akhier: Well i was more disturbed that he gone directly to telling us what dragon team he would expect than his not claiming. What's worse he just pushed this wifomy discussion forward by debating on dragon powers. Really if he didn't want to tell us our role why spreading baseless assumptions around with "not denying anything." attitude?

On Outsiders:Well i thought that Toaster "wait and win" could be one of these, but it's Watcher category apparently. So SniHjen claimed role would be one?
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Re: BYOR 7 - Night 2: How Many Times Zones In Russia?
« Reply #347 on: May 05, 2011, 08:22:47 pm »

My playing time received terrible, terrible damage with my new job, a huge sorry to everyone, especially Web for that. Now, to get back to it
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Re: BYOR 7 - Night 2: How Many Times Zones In Russia?
« Reply #348 on: May 05, 2011, 08:53:51 pm »

Lord Nincompoop : I agree that my argument on snijen is mostly conjecture, and so is why i only posted a question on it, and not a vote. I am unwilling to vote someone with the VERY low information i got ( i read up to page 10 or so quite some days ago, and will need a complete reread after my work binge), the root of my argument is that role seems extremely unwieldy, and balance would be a terrible nightmare. I dunno if thats what caused web delay in game starting, and i don't plan on causing a no lynch on conjecture. 

Wich bring me to my next point:

On classic meta reason, Tyberix reaction to his vote and imminent lynch seems townish enough. Dont mistake my wording. His reaction to the situation (not going for the obvious no lynch to save his face) is rather townlike. I won't advocate a vote switch since there are so few candidate(with so few people actually posting, it goes without saying), but i do believe this is a mistake. time will tell.


On other news, i am rather ashamed of the lacks of vote, 3 vote is not a day, that's nothing. And since i would like to vote snihjen, ill have to refrain too.
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Re: BYOR 7 - Night 2: How Many Times Zones In Russia?
« Reply #349 on: May 06, 2011, 07:12:46 am »

Wait, it's still day night? Huh? Not that I'm complaining, but I thought it was gonna end this tuesday. Eh, all the better.

Jack AT, why not do something about it instead of just commenting? Or any you just too busy enjoying the mislynch?

FINALLY!  Someone tries to do something!  Seriously, this is why I extended that time!
Wat. /:-l

   I don't know who to hunt.
Then pick someone at random if you don't have a suspect. Ask them stuff. Switch to somebody else if he doesn't slip.
Lord Nincompoop : I agree that my argument on snijen is mostly conjecture, and so is why i only posted a question on it, and not a vote. I am unwilling to vote someone with the VERY low information i got ( i read up to page 10 or so quite some days ago, and will need a complete reread after my work binge), the root of my argument is that role seems extremely unwieldy, and balance would be a terrible nightmare. I dunno if thats what caused web delay in game starting, and i don't plan on causing a no lynch on conjecture. 
Same to you. Ask stuff.

BD, SniHjen: Come out, wherever you are! Why haven't you done anything yet?
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Re: BYOR 7 - Night 2: How Many Times Zones In Russia?
« Reply #350 on: May 06, 2011, 07:18:59 am »

Wait.
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Re: BYOR 7 - Night 2: How Many Times Zones In Russia?
« Reply #351 on: May 06, 2011, 07:22:51 am »

Fuck, that was the Post button.

Anyway. People don't want to vote because they don't want a no-lynch, am I understanding that right? At least MBP doesn't want to.
So could those people post who they'd vote if it wouldn't mean a no-lynch? Because the "I'm not voting before there's enough people voting for my pick"-thing seems kinda wrong to me.
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Jack A T

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Re: BYOR 7 - Night 2: How Many Times Zones In Russia?
« Reply #352 on: May 06, 2011, 12:18:35 pm »

And why did you not do anything with that extension, I wonder?

You're getting repetitive, but meh, you're trying to make a point.  Let's see...
*1: First day of extension, I was unable to access a computer, let alone post.  And, before you bring up the first bus ride's phone posts, my phone ran out of power on me (...Full power = hours and hours, half power = a few minutes).
*2: Later days, I was (and still am, to a much lesser degree) swamped with homework.  I missed 4 days of school for a school band trip, and for some reason the teachers all stuffed a ton of work into those four days.  Including a major test.  And a lot of urgent work.  Oh, and before you say "You should've done your homework over the trip", the schedule gave no free time.  The completely incorrect schedule, but still.  Thus, I didn't check the thread often, and when I did, it was basically just reading the new posts to see whether anything looked odd and hadn't been caught by others.
*3: Okay, here's where I leave the "I have no time" excuses.  I was holding off on asking questions until I knew that the people I was going to ask were, well, actually likely to answer anything I asked.  Rereading, when I found time to do it, I didn't find anything too odd that hadn't been asked about already.  That, on its own, was another reason for the extension...that nobody really did anything with.

There.  Done with making excuses.  I'm off to do something else: contribute.

About Akhier: Well i was more disturbed that he gone directly to telling us what dragon team he would expect than his not claiming. What's worse he just pushed this wifomy discussion forward by debating on dragon powers. Really if he didn't want to tell us our role why spreading baseless assumptions around with "not denying anything." attitude?

On Outsiders:Well i thought that Toaster "wait and win" could be one of these, but it's Watcher category apparently. So SniHjen claimed role would be one?

Akhier stuff: ...people were pushing nonsensical things on Akhier, and he was arguing against said nonsense.  I don't want to look like I'm defending the guy, but this point is rather silly.  Akhier was essentially denying everything anyone accused him of.

Your other points against the guy aren't nearly as bad.

Outsiders: I don't think what SniHjen claimed counts as an outsider, as his claim involved not even having a win condition.  It might count, though.

Webadict: With the claim SniHjen gave, would he have counted as an outsider last night?
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Re: BYOR 7 - Night 2: How Many Times Zones In Russia?
« Reply #353 on: May 06, 2011, 03:57:55 pm »

Fuck, that was the Post button.

Anyway. People don't want to vote because they don't want a no-lynch, am I understanding that right? At least MBP doesn't want to.
So could those people post who they'd vote if it wouldn't mean a no-lynch? Because the "I'm not voting before there's enough people voting for my pick"-thing seems kinda wrong to me.

It's not i'm waiting for my pick to have enough vote so i can vote em ( and i dislike your interpretation, i said no such thing), it's voting them would give us a no-lynch, and thus would give a free night to scum. My pick is a weak one, based on meta. and is Snihjen. I find his claim too special even for a BYOR. It could potentially wreck the game, and normally there is a semblance of balance in Web's hosting.
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« Reply #354 on: May 06, 2011, 04:13:28 pm »

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Akhier stuff: ...people were pushing nonsensical things on Akhier, and he was arguing against said nonsense.  I don't want to look like I'm defending the guy, but this point is rather silly.  Akhier was essentially denying everything anyone accused him of.

Your other points against the guy aren't nearly as bad.

Outsiders: I don't think what SniHjen claimed counts as an outsider, as his claim involved not even having a win condition.  It might count, though.

Webadict: With the claim SniHjen gave, would he have counted as an outsider last night?
Akhier eagerness to discuss about dragon role was a bit odd in this situation in my opinion. And the explanation of this situation that make most sense is that he got role that he feels needs excuse for not revealing - and that's either scum or third party. It's not like saying "it's only guess" would hurt him, right ? I'm aware that's nothing specific but it's bit more than just "gut feeling".

BD, SniHjen: At least show up and vote :|
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Akhier the Dragon hearted

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Re: BYOR 7 - Night 2: How Many Times Zones In Russia?
« Reply #355 on: May 06, 2011, 05:45:25 pm »

   I argued a lot about the dragon role because some
where apparently just assuming I was one and that it
made me auto-scum. As for who I vote? Well currently
I would vote for Tyberix which would not be much of
a problem except that doing so at this point would look
really bad for me and he is currently up to be lynched
so unless the current balance gets disturbed I am looking
for better reasons that I can put strictly in words and
won't sound like "Wah, he's voting me". Like The
Blue Puppet of Mystery, my pick is weak right now.
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Re: BYOR 7 - Night 2: How Many Times Zones In Russia?
« Reply #356 on: May 06, 2011, 06:31:54 pm »

   I argued a lot about the dragon role because some where apparently just assuming I was one and that it
made me auto-scum. As for who I vote? Well currently I would vote for Tyberix which would not be much of
a problem except that doing so at this point would look really bad for me and he is currently up to be lynched
so unless the current balance gets disturbed I am looking for better reasons that I can put strictly in words and
won't sound like "Wah, he's voting me". Like The Blue Puppet of Mystery, my pick is weak right now.
Yeah. Why even bother hiding that ... Saying that you don't want to vote ANYONE just because you don't want tip the balance is like saying that lurking is very effective and enjoyable way of playing mafia. If you really need to be that obvious about the fact that you want to live rather than lynch scum at least don't say that you are looking for reasons just to make vote sound plausible and not to find evidence...
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Vote Count
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Akhier the Dragon hearted -
Darvi -
Jokerman-EXE -
Pandarsenic -
Tyberix - Jack A T, NativeForeigner,
NativeForeigner -
Jack A T -
SaintDraze -
lordnincompoop -
Bdthemag -
Ottofar -
SniHjen - Darvi,

Not Voting - Akhier the Dragon hearted, Jokerman-EXE, SaintDraze, Bdthemag, Pandarsenic, Ottofar, SniHjen, Tyberix, lordnincompoop,

7 To Hammer. Night Ends Firday 9 PM Central.


Sorry for the prolonged Day. I'll let this day go for a couple hours before ending, since there were a few extension requests.
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Akhier the Dragon hearted

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Re: BYOR 7 - Night 2: How Many Times Zones In Russia?
« Reply #358 on: May 06, 2011, 06:49:21 pm »

   Okay I vote you Tyberix, I don't have a good reason
I could state in writing and it really comes down to a
feeling but because you seem to want it here it is. I
do think you are scum but its just a feeling.
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Vote Count
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Akhier the Dragon hearted -
Darvi -
Jokerman-EXE -
Pandarsenic -
Tyberix - Jack A T, NativeForeigner, Akhier the Dragon hearted,
NativeForeigner -
Jack A T -
SaintDraze -
lordnincompoop -
Bdthemag -
Ottofar -
SniHjen - Darvi,

Not Voting - Jokerman-EXE, SaintDraze, Bdthemag, Pandarsenic, Ottofar, SniHjen, Tyberix, lordnincompoop,

7 To Hammer. Night Ends Friday 9 PM Central.

Lordnincompoop has been lynched!

Lordnincompoop was a Spaniard (cult).

Pandarsenic has been killed!

Pandarsenic was WEBADICT'S GIANT PURPLE DINOSAUR, SIR WILLY OF SCHLANG (town).

IronyOwl has come back to life!


It is now Day.

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