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[Jokerman-EXE]

Native: Do you really think your vote there is doing any good?

Do you think it would be doing better on someone I'm not convinced is scum?

No. Just asking if you were sure of your vote. If you are, then more power to you.

[webadict]

lordnincompoop has replaced Org! +1 Brownie points for him!

I'll make a vote count and fix the title in a bit.

[Toaster]

Uh, what? Pushing through a mislynch? Where are you getting that, Toaster? I asked a question.

I don't have a case on either of them, which is why I'm asking for their cases. I'm curious to know why you're so jumpy; I'm not on your radar as scum (at least not that you've voiced), and yet as soon as I say a word you throw a vote at me and call me scum? Doesn't work like that.

When I see scummy moves being pulled, I call people out on them.  Specifically, trying to set up an either-or situation like you just did.

[Jokerman-EXE]

I don't like that we have a tie.

Darvi and TolyK, seeing as you're on the chopping block, let's hear a concise summary of your cases against each other.

Explain to me how that's an either-or statement. Seeing as there is no "either" nor "or" in there. In fact, I think you're just making shit up now.

[IronyOwl]

It was reaction bait, and I'm disappointed that YOU were the one to jump on it.

SniHjen, what the hell was this about? Why were you baiting for a reaction, why wasn't TolyK a good choice, and why didn't you have anything to say about it when asked?

I don't like that we have a tie.

Darvi and TolyK, seeing as you're on the chopping block, let's hear a concise summary of your cases against each other.

Native: Do you really think your vote there is doing any good?

And Extend if it hasn't already gone through.

This is Jokerman trying to push through a mislynch, with the scummy move of trying to get both people in danger to do his work for him.

Let's hear your case on both of them, since you're obviously fishing for the easier mislynch.

I don't have a case on either of them, which is why I'm asking for their cases.

Unvote Pandar, Vote Jokerman. You asked about their cases on each other. You could have asked for their scumpicks or looked back to see what scumhunting they had done, but you didn't. You pointed to the two with the most votes and said "Fight!" because you're scum going for the easy lynch.


TolyK, you're asking and complaining about inactivity while doing little to nothing yourself. Why is that?

[Jokerman-EXE]

It was reaction bait, and I'm disappointed that YOU were the one to jump on it.

SniHjen, what the hell was this about? Why were you baiting for a reaction, why wasn't TolyK a good choice, and why didn't you have anything to say about it when asked?

I don't like that we have a tie.

Darvi and TolyK, seeing as you're on the chopping block, let's hear a concise summary of your cases against each other.

Native: Do you really think your vote there is doing any good?

And Extend if it hasn't already gone through.

This is Jokerman trying to push through a mislynch, with the scummy move of trying to get both people in danger to do his work for him.

Let's hear your case on both of them, since you're obviously fishing for the easier mislynch.

I don't have a case on either of them, which is why I'm asking for their cases.

Unvote Pandar, Vote Jokerman. You asked about their cases on each other. You could have asked for their scumpicks or looked back to see what scumhunting they had done, but you didn't. You pointed to the two with the most votes and said "Fight!" because you're scum going for the easy lynch.


TolyK, you're asking and complaining about inactivity while doing little to nothing yourself. Why is that?

Are you stupid? They're voting for each other, and they're the two that are in the lead in terms of votes. Asking for a reasoning behind someone's vote is scummy, now? That's quite interesting.

[IronyOwl]

Are you stupid? They're voting for each other, and they're the two that are in the lead in terms of votes. Asking for a reasoning behind someone's vote is scummy, now? That's quite interesting.

Bolded for scumminess. You don't care about what they're doing other than voting one of two easy targets, you just see that you've got options and would like them to resolve it for you.

[Jokerman-EXE]

I would like to point out that I haven't voted for anyone, so I'm still failing to see how you're thinking I'm "pushing for the easy lynch" here. I asked two players for their reasoning for voting each other; the day that becomes scummy is the day that I stop playing Mafia. I'm also more than a little peeved that you have the gall to tell me how I'm playing the game. Don't reflect your tactics on me.

Now, since you're going to continue to be obtuse morons, I'm going to wait until one of the two answers my questions, because otherwise I'm going to continue to get annoyed by your lack of common sense. If you have a legitimate question instead of a copy/paste job of Toaster, or if you think I've actually done something legitimately scummy instead of simply trying to find a reason to vote someone to appear active, then please, feel free to get my attention.

[Toaster]

I would like to point out that I haven't voted for anyone, so I'm still failing to see how you're thinking I'm "pushing for the easy lynch" here.

Simple- you're waiting to see which way the bandwagon goes before you hop on it.

[Pandarsenic]

Come out and play, TolyK.

Votecount please, I want to vote him now but I don't want to abruptly hammer him.

[Jack A T]

Toaster:

This is Jokerman trying to push through a mislynch, with the scummy move of trying to get both people in danger to do his work for him.

Let's hear your case on both of them, since you're obviously fishing for the easier mislynch.

I find this post rather interesting.  You were one of the people voting for TolyK.  Does this mean that Jokerman's actions both convinced you that he's probably scum and convinced you that both Darvi and TolyK are probably town?  Or am I reading too deeply into "trying to push through a mislynch"?

Jokerman: Out of your current attackers, who do you consider more suspicious: Toaster, or IronyOwl?  Why?

Webadict: Please, at the very least, prod SaintDraze.  He hasn't posted a single time.

[TolyK]

sorry everyone, I just got home. and my brother messed up my computer while I wasn't here 

anyways, woah lots of posts - gud!

I don't like that we have a tie.

Darvi and TolyK, seeing as you're on the chopping block, let's hear a concise summary of your cases against each other.

first off: why exactly are you trying to tip it some way? as some other folks have said, encouraging infighting is a scum move, Jokerman-EXE.


second, answering questions.

Tolyk has no case on me. That's still a RV which hasn't been taken of me because the question he voted me with was a joke. That's a no go even for me.

...
my vote stayed on because of your reaction to a question that doesn't even have anything to do with the game:

darvi, the RNG chooses you. what is my favorite color? _{trick question ^^}

That is so inane I won't even grace it with an answer.

I was surprised by this. Of course it's a question that doesn't need an answer. I was randomvoting and asked you, your reaction was... interesting.

TolyK, you're asking and complaining about inactivity while doing little to nothing yourself. Why is that?

stated at above of post - I was out almost the whole day, and my brother messed some stuff up 

By the way, Tolyk, I still have my eye on you.

good, that means we have at least 1 or 2 people who don't have tunnel vision

oh, and I don't believe Native answred this question:

Native, who would your scumbuddy be? How would you play this game today?

[TolyK]

Uh, what? Pushing through a mislynch? Where are you getting that, Toaster? I asked a question.

I don't have a case on either of them, which is why I'm asking for their cases. I'm curious to know why you're so jumpy; I'm not on your radar as scum (at least not that you've voiced), and yet as soon as I say a word you throw a vote at me and call me scum? Doesn't work like that.

erm... try and read the thread... I'm sure I come up as scummy, and darvi does some strange stuff too.
also, how would you know that you're not on his radar?

another thing: I'm not sure that name-calling is good for your reputation...

Pandar, I doubt there are enough votes for me, but I also want a votecount.

LNCP, what do you think so far in the game? Should we pay any attention to the names of roles, or will that lead to circular thinking (WIFOM I think it's called?)/incorrect "info filter"?

Jack A T, that sounds a bit circular. What is your take on the "dogs, fight!" situation, personally?

[Toaster]

Jack:

Toaster:

This is Jokerman trying to push through a mislynch, with the scummy move of trying to get both people in danger to do his work for him.

Let's hear your case on both of them, since you're obviously fishing for the easier mislynch.

I find this post rather interesting.  You were one of the people voting for TolyK.  Does this mean that Jokerman's actions both convinced you that he's probably scum and convinced you that both Darvi and TolyK are probably town?  Or am I reading too deeply into "trying to push through a mislynch"?

Fair questions.  Prior to Joker's post, I thought TolyK was suspicious enough to vote.  After it, Joker jumped way out in the lead, but TolyK only moved slightly back.  It's certainly possible they're both scum, but my first instinct says no.  It's also possible they're both town and I'm way off- I'm not perfect.  In other words, you're reading a bit too deep, yes.

Darvi I still have a neutral read on.


TolyK:

erm... try and read the thread... I'm sure I come up as scummy, and darvi does some strange stuff too.
also, how would you know that you're not on his radar?

Why are you advertising yourself as scummy?

[TolyK]

maybe because I admit I've made mistakes? I'm not a robot (though adwarf is... lol jk), and saying that I'm scumtell-free would be obviously a lie. you don't lie in mafia unless it's to hide a power(ful) role, amirite?