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Unibot the Righteous!

Bayar the Gatekeeper!

[Valrandir]

It would be good to have
- surface water available (either an aquifer or a brook / stream / river)
- a completely flat embart

[plisskin]

The world is utterly dominated by an evil mountain range, or series of mountain ranges I suppose. Dwarven society only exists in the cold south and is limited to two little civs: one on the penninsula as you can see there, and one to the east near that volcano. Otherwise there's two imposingly huge gobbo civs. The one near us is named The Spidery Scorpion. Humans dominate the world, including all Elven land, so it's a bit Tolkien-esque if you can imagine Mordor as a mountain range and split into two factions.

I'm going to post three embark locations I found that seemed good. Vote on which one you want and once we've got something like consensus I'll embark and we'll be cooking with coke.

EMBARK OPTION 1:

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I'm familiar with the .18 embark interface so I don't know if "Shallow clay" and "Very deep soil" will net us some sand, but everything else is there. Underneath the aquifer, of course. We have a freshwater spring, always good stuff. There's a couple of goblin citadels right next door: they're practically breathing down our neck at this location. Between that and the evil mountains I couldn't think of a better place for some dwarves to be caged in their own paranoid self-destruction.

This embark isn't totally flat. It ranges between 2 - 4. Our only neighbours here are Goblins: NO trade with Elves or Humans!

EMBARK OPTION 2:

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This is similar to the last one, minus the superclose goblins. It's flatter here. Still has a stream and everything else.

Again, NO Human or Elf trade here. Alone with the gobbos!

EMBARK OPTION 3:

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A compromise between the others. Beneath the ocean there's everything we need. There's no land-based aquifer. We have fresh water in the form of a stream, unless the ocean salts up stream water. FPS might hurt here a bit but what can one do but soldier on through?

Note that there are three biomes in this embark: a thick forest biome and two "ocean" biomes.

All civs have access to this embark point, so we'll be able to trade freely.

[BlastoiseWarlorf]

Oh, can I also have mechanics active? I need to set traps.

[EmperorJon]

We'll go for the ocean then, make things interesting. Shame about the lack of clay, also what mineral settings do we have? Despite it being 'cheaty' I always play with the most minerals. Until trading improves, being stuck with one mineral sucks.

What are the chances of our Shallow and Deeps being...

1. Shallow, cobaltite.
2. Deeps, cinnabar, then... galena? -.-





EDIT: Another interesting point.
Apprentices become more important than Urists, what happens if one of our characters develops a relationship with Urist...?

[plisskin]

We'll go for the ocean then, make things interesting. Shame about the lack of clay, also what mineral settings do we have? Despite it being 'cheaty' I always play with the most minerals. Until trading improves, being stuck with one mineral sucks.

What are the chances of our Shallow and Deeps being...

1. Shallow, cobaltite.
2. Deeps, cinnabar, then... galena? -.-

I have no idea! We may be clubbing gobbos with sticks for all I know. I hope we can at least churn out some iron weaponry.

The third embark is right in the middle of three biomes: the land-based ones have clay in abundance and the ocean biome itself sports the various metals and flux. I don't know how deep we'll have to dig for them though.

[Tcei]

Im stuck between the first option (superclose to the gobos!) or the third option.

hmm..
As much as I'd like acess to all civs I think I'll vote the first. Simply because I"d hate to see the fort die an early fps death.

[EddyP]

It depends, some of the embarks are over multiple biomes that might have different metals. For example, the first option has two biomes but the one we can see only has two metals (could be garnierite and kimberlite). What do the other biomes have regarding metals? I'd like to embark on the one with most possibilities.

[SirAaronIII]

I would've voted for 3, but there's no clay (as far as I can tell, maybe the land has some).

[Powder Miner]

Number 1. I want my alder logs! (Powder Building Designer loves them)

[imperium3]

You seem to be missing the most vital of all dwarves...

The Soap Maker!

Allow me, Vabok McSoaper, to offer my services. Cleanliness is next to dwarfiness, after all I am shocked at the number of forts that never have this vital, precious substance. We can start an export business!

Oh, and 1 seems to be the better embark. Not much to choose between that and 2, but they're both much better than 3 which has no trees and not much soil either.

[Valrandir]

You seem to be missing the most vital of all dwarves...

The Soap Maker!

Allow me, Vabok McSoaper, to offer my services. Cleanliness is next to dwarfiness, after all I am shocked at the number of forts that never have this vital, precious substance. We can start an export business!

Oh, and 1 seems to be the better embark. Not much to choose between that and 2, but they're both much better than 3 which has no trees and not much soil either.

Doc Valrandir:
I ♥ you Vabok McSoaper.
Together we can ensure the cleanness of our new home.

[Valrandir]

I voted for Embark Option 3 for the following reasons
- Embark 1 and 2 have an aquifer along with Very Deep Soil, which likely means triple layers aquifer or worse.
- Embark 3 have 3 biomes and so more chances of good metal.

Too bad for the lack of wood, we will have to engineer some tree farms, although the caravans should bring plenty of logs.

[plisskin]

Let me, er, clarify the third embark: it has three biomes in it. Two of them are thick forest biomes and the other one is an ocean biome. It has everything except for clay.

This all might be moot anyway if I find a perfect embark elsewhere since I'm planning to sniff around the map a little bit more, but I wanted to see what people thought would work best for us.

[Urist Imiknorris]

I wish to join in this madness:

Urist Imiknorris, Mad Genius
Skills:
Mechanics
Architecture

Basically, the stereotypical mad scientist.

I vote for Site #3.

[plisskin]

Bingo.



No aquifer, but it's got everything else we could ask for. Embark number 3 won, so now I'm putting it to a vote between this one and the one sans aquifer.

When I wake up tomorrow, whichever has more votes is the location and we're starting. So vote again!

I've gotten enough requests for traitors for now so consider that closed I've got room for another traitor or two. I'm jotting down the backstory notes right now, some noise about rival guilds in a greedy, backstabbing, self-obsessed dwarf civilization. Should add some flavor!