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[AlStar]

I cleared all the maps thoroughly. For two lichen levels I also herded them around and let them merge into lichen colonies. Do I get more loot if I let them grow?

From what I understand, no. You'll just get the combined loot of all the little lichens. However, I've got guildmates who swear up and down that you get better loot from huge ones. *shrug* I find the larger colonies enough of a pain to take out that I'd rather just deal with the tiny ones, even if the loot is slightly better for the big ones.

[Vertigon]

Welp, I found the Gloaming Wildwoods. I was kinda nervous about fighting the Snarbolax, but damn he was easy. The stupid wolver elders were harder, those jerks are so cheap. I now have every component I need for my next item, once I let my mist energy regen. I'll be out of the house all day so that should be easy

[kcwong]

I have one last item to craft... then I'll have some protection vs freeze (wolver coat), fire and shock (owlite shield), stun and sleep (jelly helmet). My sword is Cutter for swift physical damage, and a shadowtech gun.

The gun's probably another mistake... the split/bouncing almost never work to my advantage, and can't hurt those office demons. I wonder if it'll get better when upgraded, or should I switch back to my freeze gun?

[Duke 2.0]

those jerks are so cheap.

Welcome to t2, I presume t3 is even worse.

 And just got a shadowtech alchemizer from a chest, as well as found the Dusker Coat recipe. Now I just need to find the helmet and I should stand a bit better solo. Goddam healing jerks. I may as well invest in bombs and just drop them while the conga lines wander into them.

[Wolf Tengu]

Wish I could find recepies. Anyhow, i'm off to adventure.

Message me if anyone needs a hand with something.

[kcwong]

What's with some of those material auctions... blighted bone (4-star), starting bid 120, buy now 180?

[AlStar]

Value is directly tied to how useful and/or rare something is.

Blighted bones are pretty much only used in high level skelly gear (low demand) and they'll drop pretty regularly in t2 graveyards (high supply) = low price.

Fine fabric, on the other hand, is used in several dozen different recipes (high demand) and for reasons I don't quite understand, refuses to drop in any great quantity (low supply) = high price.

If you want a high-priced 4* drop, I think heavy gears are your best bet, since they're used in a number of recipes and the only thing that drops them (lumbars) doesn't do so very often, and outside of some arenas, don't show up too often.

[Wolf Tengu]

The prices of fine fabric have plummeted though.

[Paul]

Are people using extra accounts and mist energy to craft all these super cheap 2 star items?

Energy has been 52 each lately, so 50 of that and the 400 crown cost comes to 3000cr. Then the materials to make them is at least 700-1000 or so depending on the market. Thats a total of 3700-4000cr to craft. Yet theres dozens of 2 star swords on for 1750, leaving a measly 1575 after the 10% seller fee. That barely covers the crowns and materials and doesn't even come close to being worth 50 energy to craft it.

They come on at alarming frequency. Even when they arent 1750 or less, you can pretty much always get them for 2000.

It's silly. I craft Nightblades and Iceburst Brandishes and sell them cheap at a pretty good profit solely because I can buy the brandishes for them so ridiculously cheap.

[Wolf Tengu]

sounds like a plan!

[kcwong]

Are people using extra accounts and mist energy to craft all these super cheap 2 star items?

Hmm, that got me curious. So I searched, and found this:
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/444

Apparently OOO logs some information to limit free account creation in a single computer to 3 accounts per month. I wonder how their techniques fare against virtual machines though.

Though in any case they can catch you if you overdo it: a lot of free accounts doing nothing but crafting from the same IP.

[hemmingjay]

do we have a guild?

[sluissa]

I think the people putting out the cheap equipment are the ones spending not insignificant amounts of real cash on energy. You spend $50, you've got enough energy that the 50 needed to craft those things is unnoticable

To the "free" players, energy is this amazingly valuable commodity. To almost anyone that's willing to pay, energy is cheap and just a price of playing the game.

[Nirur Torir]

The most likely source of cheap swords flooding the market is people trying to get good UVs.

do we have a guild?

Yes, the Jelly Drunkers. Niloxy, Antonenko, Lasd, and Superownage are the characters to get in contact with if you want an invite.

[Paul]

I think the people putting out the cheap equipment are the ones spending not insignificant amounts of real cash on energy. You spend $50, you've got enough energy that the 50 needed to craft those things is unnoticable

To the "free" players, energy is this amazingly valuable commodity. To almost anyone that's willing to pay, energy is cheap and just a price of playing the game.

That doesn't make any sense though. If they're buying tons of energy, why would they work to sell the swords at half the price of the energy? If they wanted crowns they could sell the energy instantly for twice as much.

Only thing I can think is they're wanting a specific UV and don't care how much money they blow through to get it, so they just sit there making tons and tons and tons of them until they do.

Even in that case though, they'd have to be getting really really good UVs to make it worthwhile.

Take the general price of 2k for a Brandish (sometimes go way cheaper or slightly higher, but that seems to be a fair average). And take a conservative price to make them at around 3700, assuming they get good deals on materials. Say they make 10 on average for every 1 UV (it's 10% chance). Total cost to make would be 37000, total sales on the 9 normal ones would be 16200. That UV costed them 20800 to make, so they would have to sell it on the AH for over 23k just to break even. Most UVs are crappy ones that only go for like 6k if not less.



I bet the game company loves people who hunt UVs though. It's an ingenious system. It gives the people willing to pay lots of real money for ingame items an outlet to effectively gamble for them. Even if they win big and get something really rare, it's still just a virtual item and all it does is make his friends want to gamble for one when he shows it off. It's like some kind of virtual slot machine where you put in real quarters but all you get if you win is a big "Congratulations! You won!" and a virtual award certificate to show off to your friends.