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Waterfall: How to get the Happy bonus?
« on: April 04, 2011, 05:14:31 pm »
What conditions must be satisfied in order for Dwarves to get the Happy bonus for admiring a Waterfall?

Do they actually have to walk through the mist? Is it enough for the waterfall to be in line-of-sight? In the same room? On the other side of a Glass or Gem Window?

I've embarked on a rain forest map with a 20-level waterfall, and I'd like to put it to use.
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Re: Waterfall: How to get the Happy bonus?
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2011, 05:24:06 pm »
I think they have to walk through the mist generated by one
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Re: Waterfall: How to get the Happy bonus?
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2011, 05:37:09 pm »
Just keep in mind that it could very well be killing your fps.  Waterfalls are notorious for that.
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Re: Waterfall: How to get the Happy bonus?
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2011, 06:09:24 pm »
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Just keep in mind that it could very well be killing your fps.  Waterfalls are notorious for that.

It's pretty fast and smooth so far, but it's still early in the game... late summer of the first year. The waterfall drops off into a 20-level-deep sheer-sided east-west canyon containing another river, so that the two rivers form a 'T' with the north-south leg dropping in from 20 levels up. Can I dam the lower river with Magma => Obsidian and flood the canyon? Or will the water just exit the "source" map edge?

... I seem to recall that you can't dam a river so as to flood any higher than its entry point.
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Re: Waterfall: How to get the Happy bonus?
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2011, 06:12:51 pm »
A natural river that is dammed will not flood over the point of its entry, but if you wall of the edge of the map and pump it up 1 z-level, it will become a lake-like atmospehere.
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Re: Waterfall: How to get the Happy bonus?
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2011, 06:13:53 pm »
Quote from: The Merchant Of Menace on April 04, 2011, 05:24:06 pm
I think they have to walk through the mist generated by one

Just to second the above - see this: http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Happiness - note the trigger for the waterfall happy thought - it's walking through mist.
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Re: Waterfall: How to get the Happy bonus?
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2011, 06:29:10 pm »
Well... my rain forest seems to freeze over in the winter, for some reason... so while it's frozen I can safely re-engineer the waterfall to pass through my Dining Room.
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Re: Waterfall: How to get the Happy bonus?
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2011, 08:46:58 pm »
Quote from: blue emu on April 04, 2011, 06:29:10 pm
Well... my rain forest seems to freeze over in the winter, for some reason... so while it's frozen I can safely re-engineer the waterfall to pass through my Dining Room.
*Takes out some popcorn* This should be Fun.
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Re: Waterfall: How to get the Happy bonus?
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2011, 09:47:39 pm »
Quote from: Byakugan01 on April 04, 2011, 08:46:58 pm
Quote from: blue emu on April 04, 2011, 06:29:10 pm
Well... my rain forest seems to freeze over in the winter, for some reason... so while it's frozen I can safely re-engineer the waterfall to pass through my Dining Room.
*Takes out some popcorn* This should be Fun.

Yeah..  I think I realized the same thing you did, Byak...

Tell us how it goes, Emu!
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Re: Waterfall: How to get the Happy bonus?
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2011, 12:44:10 am »
 
Quote from: Dekon on April 04, 2011, 09:47:39 pm
Yeah..  I think I realized the same thing you did, Byak...

Not the old "Crocodiles in the Dining Room" trick again???

I shouldn't have any problem getting rid of the water, since I'm twenty freakin' levels up the side of a cliff... I can simply pipe it outside. Getting rid of the water's occupants might be more problematical, especially if they misunderstand the expression "Dining Room".
« Last Edit: April 05, 2011, 12:46:25 am by blue emu »
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Re: Waterfall: How to get the Happy bonus?
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2011, 12:46:32 am »
Quote from: blue emu on April 04, 2011, 06:29:10 pm
Well... my rain forest seems to freeze over in the winter, for some reason... so while it's frozen I can safely re-engineer the waterfall to pass through my Dining Room.
Quote from: blue emu on April 04, 2011, 06:29:10 pm
safely re-engineer the waterfall to pass through my Dining Room.
Quote from: blue emu on April 04, 2011, 06:29:10 pm
safely re-engineer the waterfall

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148. There is no Gnomish Deathgrip, and even if there was, it wouldn't involve tongs.
171. My character's dying words are not allowed to be "Hastur, Hastur, Hastur"
218. No matter my alignment, organizing halfling pit fights is a violation.
231. I am not allowed to do anything that would make a Sith Lord cry.
240. Any character with more than three skills specializing in chainsaw is vetoed.

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Re: Waterfall: How to get the Happy bonus?
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2011, 12:49:59 am »
Nice to see some carp fall right onto your plate :D

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Re: Waterfall: How to get the Happy bonus?
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2011, 12:50:39 am »
Quote from: blue emu on April 04, 2011, 06:29:10 pm
Well... my rain forest seems to freeze over in the winter, for some reason... so while it's frozen I can safely re-engineer the waterfall to pass through my Dining Room.
I built a wading pool that a waterfall spilled into, and had it on the path everyone had to follow to get food.

Worked pretty good for happines; too bad about all the dorfs that got washed overboard.
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Re: Waterfall: How to get the Happy bonus?
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2011, 12:55:29 am »
I know!  :D

I'll add a side-channel to my Magma pump-stack, so that if the water starts to flood my Dining Room and drown my Dwarves, I can dump in some Magma to block the pipe with Obsidian!

What could go wrong?  :D
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Re: Waterfall: How to get the Happy bonus?
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2011, 01:01:34 am »
Pumping the water out works nicely, I've found. Just keep the pump going.
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