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[Draignean]

I can cast earth golems, no? Or can I only make them, but not give any life.

You can only make them. If you want them to move, you have to either move them yourself, but then you can't move, or get them something with a soul in it.

Just remember that the soul taken might not be very friendly if you've killed it. If it isn't, you'll have to have a necromancer mess around with it.

Why do you need the soul?

You have your Golem that Runs on Soulpower, he goes on until he springs a leak.
You have your Golem that is animated directly by the caster and is his avatat.

Why can't you have a rechargable golem where it runs off of charge given by the creator, when its power runs out it just deactivates. It wouldn't have the intelligence of an ensouled golem, but you might be able to get it to obey simply commands like "Stand here. Clobber anything that isn't me and moves."

Blood resevoir? X Hp for X turns of life?

[TolyK]

Why do you need the soul?

You have your Golem that Runs on Soulpower, he goes on until he springs a leak.
You have your Golem that is animated directly by the caster and is his avatat.

Why can't you have a rechargable golem where it runs off of charge given by the creator, when its power runs out it just deactivates. It wouldn't have the intelligence of an ensouled golem, but you might be able to get it to obey simply commands like "Stand here. Clobber anything that isn't me and moves."

Blood resevoir? X Hp for X turns of life?

hmm rechargable golems...
also: would I be able to enchant them with a shield? 

[wolfchild]

(I have no idea what a Cheddarius is other than that it's a bad thing to do, given the context. >.>)

Look at a preveous RTD in which CHedarius was a healer, he ended up rollign badly and harming the party way too often, this is now known as the chedarius

[IronyOwl]

Alright, cool. Would there be any way to craft a more powerful golem/item by assembling each component separately?

you'll have to have a necromancer mess around with it.

Now where can we get one of those?

So, I will instead make it -2 with any unskilled penalties from either schools.

Curses.

(I have no idea what a Cheddarius is other than that it's a bad thing to do, given the context. >.>)

(same thing here )

Oh man, you guys are missing out.

I'd recommend reading Arcanum Octet II, which is where it happened, but if you're too lazy I can recount it for you. For now just imagine a healer with my luck at soulstone creation. Yeeeaaaahhhh...

Hmm. You could make IO some soul golems.

I appreciate the thought, but stuffing my good, evilness, sanity, or other such qualities into golems is the start of a divine myth, not a valid combat strategy.

[TolyK]

lol

[Tarran]

I'm not unskilled in either of the schools  so that would be fine, right? 

Aside from the -2 penalty. I meant you have a -2 penalty PLUS any unskilled penalties from either school. Meaning casting a dual-school spell with no skill in either is a -4 penalty.

...So if I wanted to try a trivial spell for that +1 bonus, how much HP would it be possible to restore?

Very little. Maybe 1-3 HP, at best.

(I have no idea what a Cheddarius is other than that it's a bad thing to do, given the context. >.>)

(same thing here )

...My god you guys. I can't believe you.

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=50593.msg1194108#msg1194108

Why do you need the soul?

Because something needs to power the golem, and something needs to be smart enough to move.

Why can't you have a rechargable golem where it runs off of charge given by the creator, when its power runs out it just deactivates. It wouldn't have the intelligence of an ensouled golem, but you might be able to get it to obey simply commands like "Stand here. Clobber anything that isn't me and moves."

Because there needs to be some sort of intelligence. No intelligence=no understanding=no thoughts=no movement.

Also, the power needed needs a soul to be in connection with the golem. Charges, even if you tried, wouldn't last long.

also: would I be able to enchant them with a shield? 

Yes. Just remember things may get wonky if you do so.

Also, remind me never to make a magic based RTD EVER AGAIN. Warblegarble.

Also2: Draignean, I'm still waiting with bated breath about your magic RTD.

PPE: THREE REPLIES. THREE.

Look at a preveous RTD in which CHedarius was a healer, he ended up rollign badly and harming the party way too often, this is now known as the chedarius

Correct.

Alright, cool. Would there be any way to craft a more powerful golem/item by assembling each component separately?

Yep. You can enchant each piece separately.

[SeriousConcentrate]

Might as well go for trivial then since Darin ain't hurt THAT badly and I need to level the skill before I start trying to heal major wounds.

[TolyK]

oh boy.
I don't wanna dual cast 
hmmm


changing action
Make rock spikes and throw them at the bats (through magic, not my hand, unless otherwise would be better)

[Draignean]

Why can't you have a rechargable golem where it runs off of charge given by the creator, when its power runs out it just deactivates. It wouldn't have the intelligence of an ensouled golem, but you might be able to get it to obey simply commands like "Stand here. Clobber anything that isn't me and moves."

Because there needs to be some sort of intelligence. No intelligence=no understanding=no thoughts=no movement.

Also, the power needed needs a soul to be in connection with the golem. Charges, even if you tried, wouldn't last long.

also: would I be able to enchant them with a shield? 

Yes. Just remember things may get wonky if you do so.

Also, remind me never to make a magic based RTD EVER AGAIN. Warblegarble.

Also2: Draignean, I'm still waiting with bated breath about your magic RTD.

Also2: Draignean, I'm still waiting with bated breath about your magic RTD.

I'm still waiting with bated breath about your magic RTD.

your magic RTD.

What magi- OH CRAP.

Out of sight, out of mind.

I've got the map around here somewhere, I'll update relatively soon and you get to see my crappy pixel art.


PS.

Also, remind me never to make a magic based RTD EVER AGAIN. Warblegarble.

Science can be just as bad, then you've got a perfectly reasonable, well thought out, and plausible concept that would repeatedly smash wrenches into your game's nuts. And you can't just say that magic doesn't work that way.

[TolyK]

Science can be just as bad, then you've got a perfectly reasonable, well thought out, and plausible concept that would repeatedly smash wrenches into your game's nuts. And you can't just say that magic doesn't work that way.

*whistles*
I like to twist rules in any way possible...

my Roll to Hack - wow, folks are really trying to do various things.
for whoever doesn't know: Korea got nuked  don't ask me how until the game ends. Or darvi explains.

[Tarran]

What magi- OH CRAP.

Out of sight, out of mind.

I've got the map around here somewhere, I'll update relatively soon and you get to see my crappy pixel art.

Yay!

[TolyK]

What magi- OH CRAP.

Out of sight, out of mind.

I've got the map around here somewhere, I'll update relatively soon and you get to see my crappy pixel art.

Yay!

I'm reserving a spot there too!
(I need more reasons to stay on the internet  )

[HmH]

Get up and help Nat yank the bolt out. Pick up the ninja rock.

[IronyOwl]

Also, we really don't want to be obsoleting a dedicated healer, so changing action.

Surround myself with a difficult (-1 penalty) kinetic shield.

Also, remind me never to make a magic based RTD EVER AGAIN. Warblegarble.

For the RTD I'm still planning, I basically decided to make it entirely the players' problem by making it incredibly open-ended. There's a specific way you go about it, but figuring out "How/Can I do X?" will be their job.

PPE: THREE REPLIES. THREE.

If it's any consolation, I do this to all my GMs.

Yep. You can enchant each piece separately.

Ooooooooooooh. How's that work? Could I, say, have a sword with a separate enchantment on the hilt, pommel, and blade? Would they be enchanted before or after being assembled? Would they all still be offensive sword-enchants because they're part of the sword, or would the non-blade bits have to/be able to take different benefits because they're not directly involved? Could I make, say, a triple-flame sword or a quadruple-shield breastplate this way?

What about golems? Could I spend the necromancy HP cost on each piece separately, healing myself between castings, or just enchant each part of the golem with some sort of benefit? Does the necromancy revival cost apply to meat golems? What about non-meat golems?

[TolyK]

woah, that's almost as many questions as I ask 

Also, remind me never to make a magic based RTD EVER AGAIN. Warblegarble.

For the RTD I'm still planning, I basically decided to make it entirely the players' problem by making it incredibly open-ended. There's a specific way you go about it, but figuring out "How/Can I do X?" will be their job.

I MUST SIGN UP!!!!

PPE: THREE REPLIES. THREE.

If it's any consolation, I do this to all my GMs.

Same here