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[Urist Imiknorris]

Closed floodgates get destroyed easily. Raised bridges can't be smashed.

[Necro910]

Closed floodgates get destroyed easily. Raised bridges can't be smashed.

Huh. I'll try that.

[TolyK]

Artifacts are also indestructible.

This is true.
however, iirc, building destroyers deconstruct the doors instead of destroying them.
although I could just be insane.

[ivze]

I suggest to seal the things while they are busy breaking closed doors with two cave-ins. Will it work, I wonder? If yes, things can be smashed later with one big cave-in from the floor above.

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[Urist Imiknorris]

Get more doors. Like a thousand of them. Just to be sure they're all there.

[EveryZig]

1.Some demons can fly through fortifications (Fluid and gas), and many can shoot syndromes. So it's pretty pathetic.

But liquid/gas enemies are the easiest to kill (apart from syndromes they might have), right? Can flame demons travel though fortifs?

Also, how long have demons been able to fly through fortifications? In .19 or so demons would NOT fly through fortifications. (I know because I had a bugged map that let me carve a fortification through a stone wall to look into the side of hell, and none of the 10 or so demons that spawned could fly into my base). Maybe is it an issue of carved vs constructed fortifications?

however, iirc, building destroyers deconstruct the doors instead of destroying them.
although I could just be insane.

I think this was once the case but I have seen FBs destroy doors (the doors gradually get XwornX then dissappear) rather than just deconstructing them.

[TolyK]

ah, ok.
artifact doors are perfect then.
wooden supports are too

[Urist Imiknorris]

1.Some demons can fly through fortifications (Fluid and gas), and many can shoot syndromes. So it's pretty pathetic.

But liquid/gas enemies are the easiest to kill (apart from syndromes they might have), right? Can flame demons travel though fortifs?

Also, how long have demons been able to fly through fortifications?

a) Again, a case of the flame material being a placeholder: Yes, flame enemies can go through fortifications, as "flame" is a gas.

b) You either had no fluid demons or their pathing was just as bugged as the map. Also, 10 demons is a really small sample.

[EveryZig]

ah, ok.
artifact doors are perfect then.
wooden supports are too

Heh... I remember hearing that enemies no longer destroy supports as building destroyers, but flame demons should just set the support on fire by being next to it.

a) Again, a case of the flame material being a placeholder: Yes, flame enemies can go through fortifications, as "flame" is a gas.

b) You either had no fluid demons or their pathing was just as bugged as the map. Also, 10 demons is a really small sample.

But some of the demons that spawned were bison made of flame. They seemed to path just fine when it came to flying around the cavern layers (also connected to hell due to the bug) and setting fire to grass while killing bug-bats.

[Necro910]

ah, ok.
artifact doors are perfect then.
wooden supports are too

Heh... I remember hearing that enemies no longer destroy supports as building destroyers, but flame demons should just set the support on fire by being next to it.

Magma Demon+Wood Support+Floor above=Fun fun!

[TolyK]

exactly!

[Sarda]

Actually, I'm fairly sure the "flame" is supposed to be plasma or some such ridiculous shite. If it were magma, it's only be 12k Urists.

[Necro910]

Actually, I'm fairly sure the "flame" is supposed to be plasma or some such ridiculous shite. If it were magma, it's only be 12k Urists.

That's just asking for a weapon mod.

[TolyK]

Actually, I'm fairly sure the "flame" is supposed to be plasma or some such ridiculous shite. If it were magma, it's only be 12k Urists.

That's just asking for a weapon mod.

Almost on it.

[TolyK]

On a more serious note, I'll try making an auto-demon-killer-device using water and magma.