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[Dyret]

Hey

Been working on my first semi-successful fort, and I have a quick question about the military and squad equipment. I've set up a squad to use only shields and swords as uniform (purchased, haven't gotten metal production on it's feet just yet,) but it seems I have to manually tell them to change from 'live' weapons to wooden ones and back, so... am I doing something wrong here or will I need to set up two different uniforms? Will someone loose a limb if I let them do their own thing?

[Urist Imiknorris]

They don't need training weapons for sparring. They won't hurt each other.

[Sarda]

..What was that post in the facepalm/message to Urist thread about dorfs killing each other with voidcrystal weapons, then? Was that only in 40d or what?

Edit: It was the "what's going in on your fort' thread.

[Urist Imiknorris]

Yeah, and I remember the mod in question. It was for 40d.

[Dyret]

They don't need training weapons for sparring. They won't hurt each other.

Ah, thank you!

What is the point with training weaponry then, though? Grooming your future military for when actual weapons become feasible?

[Sarda]

Well, back in 40d, dwarfs could and would hurt each other in sparring. Training weapons were made so they wouldn't do that. They're obsolete, but haven't been removed.

[khearn]

Two uses I know of for training weapons:
1) Training spears used in traps in danger rooms
2) You can actually cut down trees with wooden training axes. Some people start with no axes or picks and make a training axe from the wood after deconstructing their wagon, then use that to chop down trees to make wood for charcoal so they can smelt teh copper ore they bring along, and then forge picks from the copper. See http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DIY

Both can be considered exploits, or not. There are arguments in favor of danger rooms being at least somewhat realistic in concept, although I think becoming a legendary swordsman after dodging blunt spear traps for a year is a bit of a stretch. I haven't seen anyone argue that chopping down trees with a wooden axe is realistic. Although I guess it's better than using a herring.

  Keith