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[malkomk]

So I know there have already been threads about this idea, but they were mostly about dropping structures with dwarves inside into magma. So I wonder if it is possible to drop a structure with a dwarf inside into water (sea) and have the dwarf survive. Probably not, but I couldn't figure out from reading the other threads whether the fact that we can't do that and have them survive has been confirmed.

Also, is there a way to get your dwarves into cages on demand?

[EmperorNuthulu]

It's possible I think, you would just need no entrances or open areas for water to get in, and make sure your dwarves don't die upon impact. To get dwarves into cages, you either need webs from a GCS, or you could somehow knock one unconscious.

[Lord Braindead]

This is sadly impossible. Artificial walls and floors deconstruct when dropped while natural walls will cavein into a slab of rock, killing everything inside and leaving no usable 'rooms'.

[EmperorNuthulu]

Hmm, if dwarves land on water do they still split into pieces?

[Zebra2]

The same limitations apply as they do in the magma case, only that SMR problems do not apply.

From the other thread:

There are a few problems with this:

terrain falls instantly. Dwarves do not. The terrain would fall through them killing them instantly while leaving them suspended in mid-air.

All open space under falling terrain will be collapsed. Supposedly this will not happen with stairs, so such a vessel would need to be a chamber of carved stairs. In other words, structures won't keep their shape

Liquid is immediately displaced on top of the falling terrain--not sure if this applies with stairs as well.

Terrain that touches the molten rock floor of the magma sea instantly turns to magma. This would need to be done in a cistern.

Unless I've missed something, and assuming that a dwarf will not be crushed by falling stairs, assuming that water/magma does not displace into stairs like it would on top of solid terrain, and assuming you have some way of dropping a vessel one z-level at a time, it may still be possible to make a vessel of the form of a 3x3x3 up/down stairs encased in stone with dwarves stationed on the bottommost level, and drop this into fluid 1 z-level at a time.

and as noted, built-structures won't stay constructed when collapsed.

[malkomk]

To get dwarves into cages, you either need webs from a GCS, or you could somehow knock one unconscious.

Uh... a bit of explanation here please? I know that GCS stands for Giant Cave Spider, but I fail to see how their webs (or being knocked unconscious for that matter) could get your dwarves into cages. Is it possible to arrange for them to commit a crime (maybe violate a mandate?) and then cage them?

[Sphalerite]

Uh... a bit of explanation here please? I know that GCS stands for Giant Cave Spider, but I fail to see how their webs (or being knocked unconscious for that matter) could get your dwarves into cages. Is it possible to arrange for them to commit a crime (maybe violate a mandate?) and then cage them?

If a creature gets caught in a web when on a cage trap, that creature gets caged.  It doesn't matter what the creature is.  One of your dwarves stepping on webbing that's covering a cage trap will get caught in a cage.  The same is also true for normally un-cageable creatures like forgotten beasts or demons.  So if you can arrange to cover some cage traps with webs, you can cage your dwarves.

[Khift]

To get dwarves into cages, you either need webs from a GCS, or you could somehow knock one unconscious.

Uh... a bit of explanation here please? I know that GCS stands for Giant Cave Spider, but I fail to see how their webs (or being knocked unconscious for that matter) could get your dwarves into cages. Is it possible to arrange for them to commit a crime (maybe violate a mandate?) and then cage them?

Being webbed or unconscious cancels the trapavoid special ability. This is why it's a bad idea for dwarves to sleep on serrated disk traps.

[malroth]

Well you could make a floor above the ocean,  cast some obsidian walls on the floor, drop the walls into the bottom, drain the structure with pumps,  build floors and interior structures,  move in some dwarves,  cast an obsidian celing above them, then breach the walls above the celing so you'll have a underwater sealed community. 

[JacenHanLovesLegos]

I believe someone on that thread managed to drop dwarves into an artificial pit of magma.

[ISGC]

look up the dwarven magma sub experiments

[JacenHanLovesLegos]

I know now. I believe that natural walls falling on a 7/7 water/magma will not be destroyed. At least that's what I figured from this thread.

[Hammerstar]

Hmm, if dwarves land on water do they still split into pieces?

Well, falling into water in adventure mode does nothing to cushion the impact, and you'll fall right to the bottom, including flying to pieces in the impact if it's far enough. I'd assume the same physics apply in dwarf mode.

[krenshala]

To get dwarves into cages, you either need webs from a GCS, or you could somehow knock one unconscious.

Uh... a bit of explanation here please? I know that GCS stands for Giant Cave Spider, but I fail to see how their webs (or being knocked unconscious for that matter) could get your dwarves into cages. Is it possible to arrange for them to commit a crime (maybe violate a mandate?) and then cage them?

Being webbed or unconscious cancels the trapavoid special ability. This is why it's a bad idea for dwarves to sleep on serrated disk traps.

Yeah ... its usually a very bad idea to sleep on an table saw.