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[Darkmere]

Looking at that screenshot... is that really what the units look like? Nothing was moving and it took me several seconds to figure out which unit was which (I think... anti-air has one black rectangle/barrel and the others have 2?). That's kinda sad.

[lordcooper]

Most of the reviews I've been able to find are pretty negative and I can't see myself taking the plunge yet given the price.  If they'd knocked 50% off then their sales would have likely been increased dramatically by impulse buyers, myself included.

They should also definitely sack the graphics team.  The visuals aren't merely uninspiring, but plain ugly from what I've seen.

[Orb]

I have to admit, I can't buy it at that price as just a download. Maybe there will be a Steam sale in the near future.

[kg333]

I have to admit, I can't buy it at that price as just a download. Maybe there will be a Steam sale in the near future.

I agree, I expected it to go for closer to $20 than $40.  And I thought the current graphics were a placeholder 6 months ago.

KG

[Aklyon]

They were indeed supposed to only be placeholder graphics, I'm pretty sure.

[Virex]

I think they had to divert most of the team to pathfinding and engine optimization, because IIRC, the lead dev once stated that due to the strain imposed by the time travle mechanics, they essentially can only devote an amount of resources to pathfinding similar to what Tiberian Sun had to work with.

[Aklyon]

I heard it was at the level of Starcraft 1 pathfinding.

[lordcooper]

I heard it was at the level of Starcraft 1 pathfinding.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

[Neonivek]

I heard it was at the level of Starcraft 1 pathfinding.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

Given how vultures often couldn't get up simply paths... it could be?

[forsaken1111]

I heard it was at the level of Starcraft 1 pathfinding.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

bad thing

[Aklyon]

Well, Starcraft was able to work fine for a while, but that could've just been really good microing overriding the pathing problems.
Still isn't a good thing, though.

[Orb]

I've rarely had a problem with SC1's pathfinding. There are easy ways around it, such as group up before attacking, multiple groups, or simply give them short paths.


Also, I can't think one of one RTS that I like that auto groups. More often than not, your unit will go in single file line.

Game such as any mod in the Spring Engine, CnC games, and Empire Earth 2 all have line pathing.

[Neonivek]

I've rarely had a problem with SC1's pathfinding. There are easy ways around it, such as group up before attacking, multiple groups, or simply give them short paths.


Also, I can't think one of one RTS that I like that auto groups. More often than not, your unit will go in single file line.

Game such as any mod in the Spring Engine, CnC games, and Empire Earth 2 all have line pathing.

Though in a game like Archon, you sort of want to have good pathfinding.

[Virex]

Yeah the pathing is rather annoying at times, though you quickly get used to it.
One thing I did notice about the campaign is that the ability to jump back in time gives you a false feeling of security, because the game doesn't hold any hands and will kill you irrevocably if you screw up. You may be able to repair one mistake, but a few in a row are going to be troublesome.
One positive note is that the graphics are better then I expected. Sure, they're not top-notch, but I can't really say it's impossible to tell two units from each other. Then again, I've been playing Zero-K for so long that I'm probably used to these things. Also, apparently the units are supposed to have an ugly outline, but I'm not seeing that on low settings, so maybe it's something that comes into play at higher graphics settings?

[LoSboccacc]

Game such as any mod in the Spring Engine, CnC games, and Empire Earth 2 all have line pathing.

in spring engine you can actually draw a freeform line and the unit will form up on that!

btw.

achron is truly impressive. I've played it from the early betas, but now everything feels a lot more polished.

I really like they've not put constraints (or very few) on their engine so that one day when pc will get fast enough one will be able to play with extremely large timelines.

I've yet do discover multiplayer: I guess that is where the game really shines.