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[Psieye]

As someone who likes to know details, I found it slightly frustrating that while there was an excellent summary table of the plants, I couldn't find easily find details of which skills are required for what weapons/jobs and which stockpiles the new items go under (e.g. that cleaned plastics and tyres go under 'tools' in Finished Goods). I say 'slightly' because I just read the raws to learn what I couldn't from the readme, but it's worth pointing out in case there are people who don't read the raws and get confused.

Now that that's out of the way:

Spoiler: "First Fort" (click to show/hide)

I gen'd a world with minerals everywhere and embarked in very dense vegetation. Feels a little odd that salvageable junk is more common in woodlands where there's likely less wind to carry them in, but let that slide. Also let slide that 'dead' trees had saplings that were growing. We can't do anything about these core mechanics and it'd be unfortunate to give up on immersion just to fit to them.

Found out sawmills use Woodcutting skill not Carpentry skill. It makes sense, but it means I need to split my lumberjack time between going out to make more logs and turning those logs into planks. I'll get used to it, I hardly miss the lack of mineable stone because planks (and plank->charcoal) in a densely forested area mean I don't have to worry about raw materials. I can imagine it'd be hell to embark on sparse tree/vegetation biomes though.

My embark-weaponsmith died because he accidentally dug out 3 ramps into surface rock. He was dead within a few steps away from the ramps. Ok, I'll have to go back to using stairs, I was so used to ramps in vanilla forts. My plant gatherers were salesmen - RNG happened to give me 3 of these guys out of my 7 but two were agile so off they went to gather. I knew humans were on average faster than dwarves but damn, they really are trailblazers. By the way does the salesman's "little experience with farming" also affect herbalism learning rates?

Loved the star spider colony for reliable silk. I went out of my way to build a shelter for the colony so the webs wouldn't be destroyed by rain or some creature walking into them. When the Warlord caravan arrived in summer (way faster than I had expected), I ended up spamming silk ropes to trade to them. The lack of clothing makes sense and in retrospect, I should have built silk crafts instead of ropes for trade. Actually, I should have just traded prepared meals.

My first Infected siege ended up coming in winter. This was a throwaway fort anyway but my shelter was capable of sealing off all pathing to it with bridges. Then I got into a fire fight with the throwing infected after baiting them over. Lost that fight because I had no armour or fortifications, whereas the infected of course, don't feel pain. One even had a bullet shatter its skull but because the brain itself wasn't damaged, it was still fighting just fine. Well, now I know what to expect at least.

I had plenty ample time to get a proper defensive structure built with 'pillbox towers' but I was messing around building a pointlessly huge roof. Then again, I used autodump to teleport all the cut down wood to within my shelter - it's a lot of hauling jobs. Provided I build modestly though, I don't see much of a problem with the amount of wood hauling needed to get everything going. Digging through thick soil gives plenty of storage space so I'd only need the surface for farms.

I tried to make rotten meat mechanisms but there was so much concrete I had gathered up that I never got to make any. Ah well, time to start a new fort... and this time bring gypsum and galena with me so I can try out batteries.

[Abregado]

Im enjoying these first fort write ups! Has solved a few things for me and lets me know what to expect during my video lets play. I'll be trying to lure the zombies over in my next vid. No down with something very dwarvenly!

[Psieye]

Remember that 'not-exactly bug' of merchants 'blowing up' as soon as they show up on map because some item they were bringing was made of surface rock or other such 'volatile' stone? Well, now that we have wagons again, those goods only 'blow up' upon reaching the trade depot. The partial workaround is to make sure you don't build your trade depot out of wood, as when these 'stones' blow up, they do severe damage to wood, cloth, food and other such 'squishie' items. You might want to write this in as a 'feature', e.g. the Reinheit are sabotaging the caravans.

Oh and I guess it should have been obvious that even meat is banned by the Enlightened.

[kerlc]

I think it fits kinda nicely with them, them being vegan version of elves, but better equipped. (tried arena testing: 1 enlightened grand master swordsman + crucible steel rapier vs 5 zeds. THe enlightened won, but this was before the infection...)

[Psieye]

As thematically appropriate as it is for the bitten to have a rotting tissue "advanced phase" before completely zombifying, they need to be disposed of before they hit that stage. I've taken to labelling expiry dates on all those who I see have early stages of zombification. The surface rock provides an excellent "execution ground" - send the condemned to dig and poof, the job is done for you with an easily identifable corpse afterwards.

On another note, can someone confirm whether training workshops are working or not? The dojo, archery range, doctor's workshop etc don't result in skill change as far as I can see.

[OREOSOME]

Maybe you can add a caste to humans called "Enhanced Human" which would be just a regular human, albeit with a cyborg arm or leg or whatever, which could just be simulated by a limb made out of a metal, like iron.

maybe there could also be a civ like the BOS, in the way that they have some of the best tech, only that they are more like a machine cult ala 40k

[IT 000]

As someone who likes to know details, I found it slightly frustrating that while there was an excellent summary table of the plants, I couldn't find easily find details of which skills are required for what weapons/jobs and which stockpiles the new items go under (e.g. that cleaned plastics and tyres go under 'tools' in Finished Goods). I say 'slightly' because I just read the raws to learn what I couldn't from the readme, but it's worth pointing out in case there are people who don't read the raws and get confused.

Thanks for the input, I'll adjust the read-me to be a little more clear on this.

Remember that 'not-exactly bug' of merchants 'blowing up' as soon as they show up on map because some item they were bringing was made of surface rock or other such 'volatile' stone? Well, now that we have wagons again, those goods only 'blow up' upon reaching the trade depot. The partial workaround is to make sure you don't build your trade depot out of wood, as when these 'stones' blow up, they do severe damage to wood, cloth, food and other such 'squishie' items. You might want to write this in as a 'feature', e.g. the Reinheit are sabotaging the caravans.

Oh and I guess it should have been obvious that even meat is banned by the Enlightened.

Hehe yeah I suppose I need a reason for the spontaneous combustion. Good suggestion.

Maybe you can add a caste to humans called "Enhanced Human" which would be just a regular human, albeit with a cyborg arm or leg or whatever, which could just be simulated by a limb made out of a metal, like iron.

maybe there could also be a civ like the BOS, in the way that they have some of the best tech, only that they are more like a machine cult ala 40k

Well, I don't want to get too futuristic. Corrosion's supposed to be an average zombie-apocalypse movie. The only reason why mutants are in is to bridge the gap between that and other hard-coded creatures such as Titans, FB's, and Vampires.

[Psieye]

Skulking Infected sieges are like human sieges - the most annoying kind where they will deliberately camp at the map borders until some 2 months later when they finally decide to advance on your fort. Goblin siege behaviour is what I'd normally expect of zombie sieges, which is the case for the other Infected 'race'. Is the Skulking siege being intentionally annoying an intended feature or a bug?

[kerlc]

Well, it is a bug, but (in the famous words of Notch) it is also a feature. The Skulking Infected are cunning, fast creatures that use their brain more than they use their brawn.

[IT 000]

1.1.4 is up. Sorry, I haven't updated the changelog, but I've made a number of updates

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

* Added roaming Infected that come to your fort and can infect your humans.
* Added hats as armor, hats cover the entire head, can only be made of leather, but can be worn on top of metal caps.
* Removed SHAPED tag from hoods, you can now wear hoods and helmets
* Helmets now renamed Caps.
* High/Low boots replaces with Footplate. Covers 50% of shots and made of metal.
* Added leather boots, can fit over Footplates.
* More Personality traits for more grudges.
* Infected now have white eyes.
* New Semi-Megabeasts : Howler and Unstable Experiment
* New Megabeasts : Experiment 219,
* Semi-megabeasts arrive sooner.
* Redesigned the Cruncher, it is now slightly larger then a human. Biting will now cut and tear humans when rather then pierce them. Also removed their ability to scratch, and gave them the ability to infect your humans.
* Executioner gets his own squad but has no members (Training purposes mostly)

Skulking Infected sieges are like human sieges - the most annoying kind where they will deliberately camp at the map borders until some 2 months later when they finally decide to advance on your fort. Goblin siege behaviour is what I'd normally expect of zombie sieges, which is the case for the other Infected 'race'. Is the Skulking siege being intentionally annoying an intended feature or a bug?

I can't find any tags in the entity file that would suggest that they should be waiting like humans. It might have something to do with the [MISCHIEVIOUS] tag or the hard-coded ambusher AI.  Or they could be lazy.

I'll look into it, maybe I'm missing something.

Also I mistyped the url tag. Abregado's third video now shows up on the main page.

[Psieye]

I can't find any tags in the entity file that would suggest that they should be waiting like humans. It might have something to do with the [MISCHIEVIOUS] tag or the hard-coded ambusher AI.  Or they could be lazy.

I'll look into it, maybe I'm missing something.

I recall encountering this when I was modding in some slaughter-fodder races for myself in 31.25. I could not figure out which tag was responsible for the human siege behaviour. In the end, I did the last resort of re-writing the affected race's entity raws from scratch, this time starting from a copy/paste of the goblin entity instead of the human entity. To my eyes, the end result in the raws were exactly the same before and after this last resort but the game acknowledged them to be goblin-style siegers now instead of human-style siegers.

[Rushmik]

Posting to follow! Once my current fort has crumbled I'll give this a shot or five for sure.

[Abregado]

Part 4 of my lets play is up here. Not the most exciting episode but I think Ive got a plan now!

http://youtu.be/SOs_AUMYL1s

[Pallbearer]

Perhaps you could add combat boots? If that's too sophisticated then maybe steel cap boots? I guess the foot plate is already basically a steel cap boot.

Also, maybe instead of calling the Shotgun Pistols Shotgun Pistols (wow, there had to be a better way to word that) you could call them Sawn-Off Shotguns.

I also recommend making a psychiatrist noble, like in Deon's Genesis mod.

Just my two cents. 

[Psieye]

By the way, is it intended that shotgun shells make for better ammo capacity? Shells are produced in stacks of 15 which means a soldier will pack 2 stacks of 15 into his quiver whereas can only fit one stack of 25 bullets. Given shotguns hit harder than rifles, doesn't that mean the only reason to use rifles is the bayonet (and if you're resource-limited)?