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Author Topic: Roller's Block (RTD Brainstorming Thread) (HAPPY LATE BIRTHDAY) (Derm is 5k)  (Read 746971 times)

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Re: Roller's Block (RTD Brainstorming Thread)
« Reply #2355 on: November 22, 2011, 08:11:34 pm »

Pirates vs. Ninjas is moot because the cops would beat both groups into submission with little trouble at the same time. :3
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Re: Roller's Block (RTD Brainstorming Thread)
« Reply #2356 on: November 22, 2011, 08:15:08 pm »

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I know, it's really rough. I was planning on simply making a rough sketch-out, and then fixing it up later. So don't think that this is anywhere NEAR a finished product.

Yeesh, go work for a day and suddenly I'm way out of date.

All in all looks good to me, though I'd caution that you've set yourself up for a bit of bookkeeping. Not that I'm one to talk, given my first RTD. Point by point critique...

1d8 is fine as a system- in my current RTD - Roll to Deathmatch - I've basically got the same setup. In mine I'm still rolling at d6, but I've got explicit definitions for results 0-7 (highest and lowest only being accessible through modifiers.) Just make sure you define the middling values.

Various abilities have "x uses/battle," which is a good way to go about it if you plan to have clean, segregate encounters (most likely if you're encouraging the party to work together.) If you think it's more likely that each player is gonna go off on their own and get involved in a bunch of running battles, you might want to consider haveing an "x turn cooldown" instead- it depends on how you plan encounters to work, I just mention it as it is something to think about.

The magician stuff needs a bit of "how does magic work in general" before you can judge how well balanced it is, but I will say that Arcane Magistry is somewhat flawed at high level since it is useless if the player normally has access to Tier 3 magics. I'd make a special "Tier 4" that would only be accessible by that feature, or provide some kind of boost to your regular spells in endgame.

Clockwork Mechanism, when the Paladin is in Frenzy and has to attack every round, is that just a straight melee attack or would it count if the player decided he wanted to indirectly attack his foe- knocking down the chandelier, for example.

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please DO NOT be afraid to criticize me, even to the point of mocking. It will only make me better if you point out all flaws.

Although it is true that pointing out the flaws in what you've got will help you make better rules, mocking is still not OK. Criticism is constructive- Mockery is destructive. Don't assume we need to tear you down in order to tear down your ideas, and don't assume that because we've torn your ideas down you should go sit in the shame corner.


RE: Pirates v Ninjas- my stance on this matter is well known (yo-ho!) but like many internet arguments it largely depends on your assumptions, chiefly fantasy/realism and setting. "Pirates on a boat" vs "Ninjas on a boat" is no contest, and neither is "Pirates occupying feudal Japan" vs "Ninjas liberating feudal Japan." I do loves me some terrain modifiers.

Hah, sorry about that. Didn't mean to overwhelm you with my idiocy...don't worry about the bookkeeping part, I'm pretty good at that sort of thing. I have a bit of OCD, which means I tend to type down anything of even the slightest importance.

The players will be participating in battles together, it's kind of a led game; - They have a path, but that path has options. It's not linear, but it's not sandbox either. Kind of hard to explain, but thanks for the tip! It's in my notes as of now. And you're right, the Arcane Magistry is kinda underwhelming right now. I think I'll take that idea of yours, it seems to work pretty good! I was planning on having the magic system simple, with Tier 1 and 2 being the all-around "Magic", and Tier 3 being extremely powerful, yet extremely costly spells. Most Magician's wouldn't be able to cast a Tier 3 spell without the help of Arcane Magistry, unless they had some strong enchanted items to disenchant for their energy, or very rare Reagents. I like your idea more though, to be honest.

I should have labelled it right, but yes, the Clockwork Mechanism Frenzy let's the player do anything that relates to attacking the enemy. This means they can't defend themselves (I mean as in go into a defensive state, not stripping their defense), or casting healing spells and whatnot. A bonus, yet a downside as well...

I see your point...I'm used to having people shred my ideas and call me out to get T-bagged, so I didn't really know what to expect...I tend to take the safe road, no matter what. Thanks for the reassurance although! I'll try better next time, heh.

Thanks for all your help, and I'll make sure to spam you again when I have a bit more typed out. You're an awesome person, don't ever forget that! If you ever need help (Lol, right...Like that'll happen!), don't be afraid to call me into servitude! I owe it to you.

So, glad to see that the glaring flaws and horrible kinks are worked out, time to watch some Gintama!

@SeriousConcentrate: Oh lawdy. That's...Wow. You sure think out of the box, don't you? xD.
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Re: Roller's Block (RTD Brainstorming Thread)
« Reply #2357 on: November 22, 2011, 08:16:36 pm »

On both the anime and Pirate vs. Ninja topics, Nanoha could just blast both of them into the ground.
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Re: Roller's Block (RTD Brainstorming Thread)
« Reply #2358 on: November 22, 2011, 08:19:42 pm »

I'd like to see one of those academy award-winning period piece movies about racism in 20th century America, the triumph of the human spirit, etc...

...Only instead of Caucasians and African-Americans it would be Pirates and Ninjas. And the film would take itself entirely seriously from beginning to end.
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Re: Roller's Block (RTD Brainstorming Thread)
« Reply #2359 on: November 22, 2011, 08:20:08 pm »

I don't know who that is.

*Tvtrope* A magical girl, okay.

But what about... robots?
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Re: Roller's Block (RTD Brainstorming Thread)
« Reply #2360 on: November 22, 2011, 08:22:39 pm »

Yeah, I'm sort of v(._.)>[MEH] right now 'cause I don't have the cash for Saints Row 3 and I might not for awhile. :\ ANYWAY! On topic: Since the last time I reported on the FE RTD progress, Taric's been a great help for hashing out magic and talking me out of unnecessary work; I had planned to add some weapon types but really it's not necessary and kind of upsets the balance the game already had, so between making mounts special equipment and needing to make less weapons things should go faster.
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Re: Roller's Block (RTD Brainstorming Thread)
« Reply #2361 on: November 22, 2011, 08:25:56 pm »

I don't know who that is.

*Tvtrope* A magical girl, okay.
Yeah, thats just the first person I could think of, since SC brought up the Saints Row cops. Would be much more interesting to have Fate from the same show vs a ninja instead though, since both are quick and have a sword.
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Re: Roller's Block (RTD Brainstorming Thread)
« Reply #2362 on: November 22, 2011, 08:27:31 pm »

a lot of things are quick and have a sword. Samurai. Anime heroes. bad fanfiction heroes. my grandmother. Not really that uncommon.
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Re: Roller's Block (RTD Brainstorming Thread)
« Reply #2363 on: November 22, 2011, 08:28:15 pm »

On both the anime and Pirate vs. Ninja topics, Nanoha could just blast both of them into the ground.
...Point. Still gotta play Magical Battle Arena just so that I can have her fight Lina Inverse
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Re: Roller's Block (RTD Brainstorming Thread)
« Reply #2364 on: November 22, 2011, 08:33:08 pm »

How the hell did this thread fly so bloody far off-topic? I mean...What? Where are the mods? I would be expecting bans left and right! Hell, I was muted for a week by doing general dickery, and doesn't that apply here?

And, also: My parent's are horrible. They gave my 9-year-old sister a glass of champagne! I can't see the appeal of alcohol, that stuff is nasty. This is child abuse, and I don't like it...Anybody agree with me?
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Re: Roller's Block (RTD Brainstorming Thread)
« Reply #2365 on: November 22, 2011, 08:34:50 pm »

What's "off-topic"? :V
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Re: Roller's Block (RTD Brainstorming Thread)
« Reply #2366 on: November 22, 2011, 08:36:40 pm »

The RTD forum generally polices itself and we're pretty mellow, so no worries about that. As for your parents, uh. Maybe they're trying to put her off alcohol by giving her some? I don't know how champagne tastes 'cause I don't often drink, but when I do, it's Kentucky Bourbon and coffee. Keep posting your RTD ideas my friends.
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Re: Roller's Block (RTD Brainstorming Thread)
« Reply #2367 on: November 22, 2011, 08:37:20 pm »

What's a "mod?" :P


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Re: Roller's Block (RTD Brainstorming Thread)
« Reply #2368 on: November 22, 2011, 08:37:36 pm »

Theres only two Mods on Bay12, except for a third one in the Curses forum, Dave. As long as we get back to the topic eventually, its not really a problem unless people need to report something.
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Re: Roller's Block (RTD Brainstorming Thread)
« Reply #2369 on: November 22, 2011, 08:39:40 pm »

Theres only two Mods on Bay12, except for a third one in the Curses forum, Dave. As long as we get back to the topic eventually, its not really a problem unless people need to report something.
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