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[Caellath]

I think shields should work as health, but they should slowly recharge. Also, there should be weapons which dealt more shield damage and others more "hull" damage, like in most spaceship games. Shield generators should also be expanded upon, so smaller ships with shitty hull could try to compensate with better shielding systems.

Edit: Wrong quote >:

[Skyrunner]

Or maybe...

Hull : HP
Armor : Used for damage rolls
Shield  : Act as regenerating HP?



Anyways, its Sirius's game >.>

[Caellath]

It's Roller's Block, the magical suggestions place. He can say "fuck you" to me or just see if I have spouted something other than nonsense.

[Sirus]

How would armor be damaged? o_O

Damage rolls. Roll a d20 and see what the result of getting shot is. You might lose a weapon system (-1 attack), a section of armor might be destroyed (-1 Armor), a vital section of the superstructure could be damaged (-1 Hull), the shot could hit a non-vital area and just leave a hole to be patched up later (best possible result, no "real" damage suffered), etc. In the worst-case scenario, the warp core could breach, causing additional damage rolls that might instantly destroy the ship.

@ Caellath: Hmm, I hadn't thought of that idea for shields. It might work better that way.
In a future version (assuming this one is successful), there will be different types of weapons that have different effects. For now though, the mass-drivers, missiles, lasers, etc all fall under the single "Weapon" stat.

He can say "fuck you" to me or just see if I have spouted something other than nonsense.

I try not to be so rude

[Gatleos]

In IRC Gatleos (was it?) had an idea for a forum game. Mainly, the whole thing is in some esoteric code, and the players have to accomplish a goal by discovering and using said code.

Question : what would motivate the players? o_o...

Yes, very hard, but still >_< What would motivate the players?!
As for the esoteric code, something similar to LOLCODE might be right, but using bay12 memes instead?

I'm thinking of maybe a 'hacking' sort of game. The players could team up and hack the government/banks/local 7-11, or they could hack each other.

This might actually be fun ...

There are plenty of esoteric and fictional coding languages simple enough for someone without a coding background to quickly understand, and it wouldn't be very hard to make another one. We don't need functionality and it doesn't have to be a practical language to use, it just needs to be quickly understandable and easy to use. As for a setting, something more fantastical than a simple "u r el1te haxx0rs" would probably do better. A coding language that alters reality would suffice here.

The big problem, one that I've brought up with other RtD concepts before, is that this is a game of learning a complex interface and bending it to your advantage. It's a puzzle game, where the challenge is in coming up with a way to word your actions to get the desired result. Combining that with a system where the result of your action is ultimately decided by random chance would severely undermine the whole concept. Unless anyone else has any ideas, I'd say it would work better as a suggestion game.

[10ebbor10]

Well, I had a spaceship idea lying around, so I suppose I could drop it in here. Note that I might use it too, and that it's probably way to complicated for what  you are seeking:

Spoiler: Stats (click to show/hide)

Structural Health:(If this reaches zero your ship will explode. If it gets too low making complicated maneuvers might tear it in two)
Armor:(This protects the outerlayer of your ship. If your armor is pierced your internal systems may take damage.)
Patch-up health: ( Infield repairs will add patchup health to your ship. This will be diminished first before the real health takes damage)
Heat: (All things produce heat, which needs to be radiated away or things might melt)
Energy: Is required to make thinks function
Size: Determines how much parts you can put into your ship. And how easy it is to hit it. And how much cargo you can carry.

Spoiler: Ship size, length and decks (click to show/hide)

Every ship has a certain length. This length can be freely adjusted. Adding extra decks costs 1000 for the first deck, 1500 for the next,... Decks are concentrical with the deck with lowest size inside.
Deck 1:  size = length
Deck 2:minimum size = 120% length deck 1
Deck 3:minimum size = 120% length deck 2
Deck 4:minimum size = 120% length deck 3

A ship is also divided in sections, which are between 150-250 size on the first deck. For example.
Ship length: 300
Front section
Deck 1:150 size
Deck:2 200size
Aft  section
Deck 1: 150 size
Deck2 200 size

You need to put the spaceship parts in their respective sections. Every section has it own structural and armor health.

Spoiler:  Structural health and armor (click to show/hide)

Structural health is equal to the size of the section divided by 10.

Armoring is done per deck and section. You pay for the size of that deck/section. Armoring multiple decks is possible
Light armor: 20 hp (cost 2 per size point )
Medium armor: 40 hp (cost 4 per size point)
Heavy armor: 60 hp(cost 6 per size point)

Spoiler: Power generators (click to show/hide)

There are multiple types of powergenerators: Conventional fuel, Nuclear, Fusion.

Conventional fuel generator
Price: 5 * size
Poweroutput: 0- 5*size
Heathoutput: 0.5*size
Fuel required: 0.1*size per miniturn
Reaction speed: Instant

Nuclear fuel
Price: 10*size
Poweroutput: 0- 10*size
Heatoutput: 0.5*size
Fuel required: 0.05*size
Reaction speed: Max change of 2.5*size turn

Fusion
Price: 75*size
Poweroutput: 5*size- 50*size
Heathoutput: 0.5*size
Fuel required: 0.25*size
Reaction speed: Instant.
Reactivating the fusion reactor after shutdown costs 50*size energy

Spoiler: Heat management (click to show/hide)

Radiator:
Price:2.5* size
Heathoutput: -2.5*size
Note: external but retractable stucture. Non functional when retracted, does not benefit from armor bonusses when extended.

Liquid cooling
Price:2.5* size
Heathoutput: -10*size
Resource used: 0.1*size
Note: external but retractable stucture. Non functional when retracted, does not benefit from armor bonusses when extended.

Heathsink
Price:10* size
Energy required: 0.5*size
Capacity: 50* size

Natural radiation: A ship naturally radiates Outer deck size/10 heat per turn.

Heat is produced by energy being used(1 energy=1/2 heat) or being wasted(1 energy wasted= 2 heat).

Spoiler: Lifesupport (click to show/hide)

Lifesupport(Includes cabins and such):
Price: 5*size
Energy use: 2*size
Crew support: 0.5*size

Spoiler:  Engine Note: must be placed on upper decks (click to show/hide)

Conventional engine
Price: 5*size
Energy use: 5*size (at full power)
Max speed change: +- 0.5 per turn * size
Theoretical max speed: 100
Capacity: 10 size* size(overloaded engines react slower)

VASIMIR
Price: 10*size
Energy use: 1*size (at full power)
Max speed change: +-0.1*per turn size
Theoretical max speed: 1000
Capacity: 10size * size(overloaded engines react slower)

Spoiler: Jumpdrives (click to show/hide)

Follower jumpdrive
Price: 10*JDsize
Energy use: 10*size per jump
Charge speed: 2 energy*size
Capacity: 25 size units*size
Note: Cannot jump independly. Needs a ship to follow

Jumpdrive
Price: 50*size
Energy use: 30*size per jump
Charge speed: 6 energy*size
Capacity: 25 size units*size

Spoiler: Pointdefenses (Note, must be placed on the upper deck) (click to show/hide)

Laserdefense turret
Price: 250 per turret
Size: 5
Energy consumption: 20
Damage: d6 (Shield and armor)
Hit chance: certain

Flakturret
Price: 500
Size: 5
Energy consumption: 5
Shielddamage: 0
Hull Damage: d4
Hit-chance: certain
Note: Splashdamage, each turret hits all objects inside it's range.

Spoiler: Shields (click to show/hide)

Normal Shield generator
Price: 15*size
Energy consumption: 5* size
Shield cap: 1*size
Shield regen: 0.1* size

Fighter shield
Price: 50* size 
Energy consumption: 2*size
Shield cap: 2*size
Shield Regen: 0.2*size
Other: Can phase through other shields, allozing the fighter to target shielded enemies
Note: Max shield: 10

Spoiler: Others (click to show/hide)

-Batteries
Price: 10*size
Storage capacity: 100*size

-Exhaust hatch:
Price:1*size
Effects: Allows you to construct internal engines up to twice the size of the exhaust hatch.
Note: can be closed to prevent other ships from targetting it. Weapon/dock/engine non functionall when closed.

-Launch shute
Price:1*size
Effects: Allows you to construct internal docks. Max capacity= Launch shute size.
Note: can be closed to prevent other ships from targetting it. Weapon/dock/engine non functionall when closed.

-Internal Weapon battery
Price:  1*size
Effects: Allows the construction of ship vs ship weapons inside the ship. Max weapon size while retaining full accuracy= 1/2 Internal weapon battery size.
Note: can be closed to prevent other ships from targetting it. Weapon/dock/engine non functionall when closed.

-Internal dock
Price: 10*size
Max docked ship size: 90% hangar size

-external docking clamp
Price : 25*size
Max docked ship size: 10* hangar size
Note: Doesn't allow repairs or refuels to docked ships

Spoiler: Command and reconnaisance (click to show/hide)

Bridge
Price: Free
Energy consumption: 1*size
Size required to be dedicated to the bridge is 1 for every 40 size.

Remote control
Price: 20*Size
Energy required: 5*size
1 required for every 40 size

Passive radar
Price:5*size
Energy use:1*size
Targetting distance: 5*size
Doesn't betray you to enemies

Active radar
Price:5*size
Energy use:5*size
Targetting distance: 20*size

Spoiler:  Weapons(Notes, need to be connected to the outside of the hull) (click to show/hide)

Laser
Price: 5* size
Energy use: 5*size
Weapon points:1*size (divide among the following)
Accuracy: 1 point for 5%
Piercing chance: 1 point for 2%
Damage vs shields: 5 point to increase max dam by 1, 10 to increase min damage by one
Damage vs armor:  5 point to increase max dam by 1, 10 to increase min damage by one

Plasma thrower
Price: 10*size
Energy use: 20*size
Weapon points: 2*size
Accuracy: 1 point for 5%
Damage vs shields: 5 point to increase max dam by 2, 10 to increase min damage by 2
Damage vs armor:  5 point to increase max dam by 1, 10 to increase min damage by one
Range:1 point to increase range by 100

Ballistic weapon
Price: 2*size
Energy use: 1*size
Weapon points:1*size (divide among the following)
Accuracy: 1 point for 2%
Piercing chance: 1 point for 5%
Damage vs shields: 10 point to increase max dam by 1, 15 to increase min damage by one
Damage vs armor:  3 point to increase max dam by 1, 5 to increase min damage by one
Ammo size: 1 bonus point per ammo size (1/3=-2points, 1/2=-1 point,1= 1 point, 2= 2 points,...)

Missile launcher
Price: 1*size
Energy use: 1* size
Max missile size: 90%*size
Missile capacity: 1 (can be reloaded effortlessly during combat)

External Missile launcher
Price: 1*size
Energy use: 1*size
Max missile size: 150%*size
Missile capacity: 1 ( Reloading not as easy during combat)

Artifact/Prototype weapon.
Make up your own stats. Note that finding parts/ammo is going to be hard, and that you need to have a good explanation for why you have it.

[spoiler=Missiles]
Warheads

Plasma warhead:
Price: 10*size
Weapon points: 4 * size
Damage vs shields: 5 point to increase max dam by 2, 10 to increase min damage by 2
Damage vs armor:  5 point to increase max dam by 1, 10 to increase min damage by one

Conventional warhead:
Price: 2*size
Weapon points: 2 * size
Piercing chance: 1 point for 5%
Damage vs shields: 5 point to increase max dam by 1, 9 to increase min damage by one
Damage vs armor:  2 point to increase max dam by 1, 4 to increase min damage by one

Mass warhead:
Price: 1*size
Weapon points: 1 * size
Piercing chance: 1 point for 5%
Shield piercing ability: 2 points for every 5 shield hp points ignored
Damage vs armor:  2 point to increase max dam by 1, 4 to increase min damage by one

Other: Make up your own

Spoiler: Example ship. Civilian small cargo liner. Unfinished. (click to show/hide)

Length:600 Total size: 1350

Front section:

Deck 1: 124/200
Active radar: 50
Bridge: 34
Lifesupport: 40
Heatsinks:10 (500)

Deck 2: 129/250
PD turret(5)
Radiators (124)

Midsection:

Deck 1: 74/200:
Follower Jumpdrive: 54
Shield generator: 20

Deck 2: 129/250
PD turret (5)
Radiators (124)

Aftsection:

Deck1: 130/200:
Nuclear generator: 130
Deck2: 140/250
Conventional engines: 135
PD turret (5)

Power management:
-675
-250
-100
-60
-54
-34
-80
-5
_____+
1258 (Note that while this ship produces enough power to run all it's functions continuus, yours doesn't have to.)

Heat management:
Generators: 65
Used power 1258/2:+ 629
Wasted power 0*2:+ 0
-75 (Natural radiation)
-620 (radiators)

Cargo: 604

Spoiler:  Movement (click to show/hide)

The engines change your current speed. When the engines are off you continue to drift to space. If you are moving towards planets or suns, you get a speed bonus (25 for suns, others depending on size of planets(Note that the number is for when you're pretty close already)) When you move away, you get a speed penalty

Spoiler: Accuracy (click to show/hide)

Accuracy has several modifiers. The base accuracy stat listed is based on a distance of 500. For every 50 you get closer you increase your accuracy by 1% and viceversa

Several things also diminish or increase accuracy.
Bonus:
Lining up and firing. Depends on quality of maneuvring. -25% and +25%
 
Minus:
Aiming at a specific outside part: -20%
Aiming at a part protected by an exhaust shaft,... -50%
Enemy dodging maneuver: Depends on quality of maneuvring. -25% and +25%
 

Spoiler:  Player stats (click to show/hide)

20 points to divide amont the following. Every skill starts out on 4 and can be diminished to 2(Note that in that case an action undertaken in that skill has 2 posible ends: Extreme failure and Minor succes).

Close combat skill:
Ranged combat skill
Shipvsship weaponry skill:
Medical skill:
Mechanics skill: (Patchups, operating machinerand stuff fall under this)
Engeneering skill: (Permanent repairs and construction fall under this)
Social skill:
Piloting(Fighters):
Piloting( Large ships):

Spoiler: Possible player buying things (click to show/hide)

Advanced tool kit: 500
+1 to mechanics/engineering.

EVA suit: 250

This is getting complicated. If I ever use it I will make it a one ship only game.

Intended player budget: 10.000- 25.000 for the captain. 1.000-2.000 for individual crew members. Amount of player spots: 6

[Skyrunner]

I see a couple things with that.

For example, is it possible to just combine Structural Health and Patch-up Health? You could express it like this:

100 / 100 (80)

means that the original structural health is 80, you have 20 Patch-up health, and you have 0 damage right now.

Or alternatively, just represent it as

120 / 100

meaning you probably have 20 patch-up health, 100 total structural health, and you have zero damage.

Though I don't know what you are going to use that for, I presume its a forum game. If it is, I think simplifying things as much as possible without sacrificing customization/complexity is ideal.


Another part would be Size and Cargo. I suggest that they should be combined, and parts have volume ratings. Example:

Radar-based sensor kit v2 - 12
Conventional rockets - 10

The pro would be that you can possibly make a spaceship that sacrifices cargo carrying ability for functionality.

FAKEEDIT : Actually, it seems that that would be more confusing. To keep it the same as your thing, say that you have 'cargo space' only. And, each part you add to your ship is equal to 10 cargo. Now, we have only one number to manipulate.

..Or just go with variable-size parts.


What does 'concentric' in the second spoiler, 'Ship size, length and decks' mean? Does it mean that the decks aren't actually like the decks of a sea-faring ship, and are actually round like an onion and its layers?

If you mean they are stacked... well, nothing much.


It seems that structural health is equal to size/10... which means that your size(and or cargo space) must be very big ...


About 'heat', something that could be done is simply add up all the numbers for your player, making it like this (using [abbr])

8.6 excess heat per turn, sent to heatsink

I see that the only thing that produces heat is power production. Instead of having an orphaned stat, you could either do away with it, and instead make the generators larger or such, or you could require that you have enough radiator ability to cover your heat production before you can even leave the docks?


I'll try and make a theoretical ship:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Size 101
  currently have the following parts:
    passive sensor set
    point-blank laser system
    external optics set
    active radar set
    4 conv. generator
    1 fusion generator
    1 radiator
    20 life support (100 crew)
    10 engine
    2 jumpdrive
   
    59 spots unused
   
Struct. Health 3950 / 3950
  patchup health 20 / 20
Armor:
    Heavily armored deck 1 : 60 * 48 = 2880 HP
    Lightly armored deck 2 : 20 * 53 = 1060 HP
  HP granted by armor : 3940

Heat: -5 + 25 - 25 = -5

Energy:
    Size 4 conventional generator
       :: outputs 0~200 energy
       :: outputs 20 heat
       :: requires 4 fuel/miniturn
    Size 1 Fusion generator
       :: outputs 50~500 energy
       :: outputs 5 heat     Maybe fusion generators should output more heat?
       :: Uses 1 fuel / 4 miniturns
-------Total = 50~700 energy
   
Cargo space: 590 cargo space left

Decks
Deck 1 : length 48
Deck 2 : length 53

Engines
5 conventional
5 VASIMIR

= uses 250 power at full speed, capacity 100 size
Theoretical max speed = 550

Jumpdrive
2 Jumpdrives
Uses 30000 energy per jump
Charges at 6000 energy rate.
Is this energy the same as the energy at the top of the sheet?

Very complicated, I must note...

[10ebbor10]

I see a couple things with that.

For example, is it possible to just combine Structural Health and Patch-up Health? You could express it like this:

100 / 100 (80)

That was how I intended to do it. You can patch up armor too.

means that the original structural health is 80, you have 20 Patch-up health, and you have 0 damage right now.

Or alternatively, just represent it as

120 / 100

This doesn't work, as it can't represent patching a damaged ship. (ie 50/80 (30))

meaning you probably have 20 patch-up health, 100 total structural health, and you have zero damage.

Though I don't know what you are going to use that for, I presume its a forum game. If it is, I think simplifying things as much as possible without sacrificing customization/complexity is ideal.


Another part would be Size and Cargo. I suggest that they should be combined, and parts have volume ratingsSize and cargo are combined. 1 non used size equals 10 cargo. Example:

Radar-based sensor kit v2 - 12
Conventional rockets - 10

The pro would be that you can possibly make a spaceship that sacrifices cargo carrying ability for functionality.

FAKEEDIT : Actually, it seems that that would be more confusing. To keep it the same as your thing, say that you have 'cargo space' only. And, each part you add to your ship is equal to 10 cargo. Now, we have only one number to manipulate.

..Or just go with variable-size parts.


What does 'concentric' in the second spoiler, 'Ship size, length and decks' mean? Does it mean that the decks aren't actually like the decks of a sea-faring ship, and are actually round like an onion and its layers? Yes, that's the only way to realistically create artificial gravity. It also allows people to protect reactors and other important things by stacking them on Deck 1

If you mean they are stacked... well, nothing much.


It seems that structural health is equal to size/10... which means that your size(and or cargo space) must be very big ...
I didn't do any balance yet. Size /5 might be a better idea.

About 'heat', something that could be done is simply add up all the numbers for your player, making it like this (using [abbr])

8.6 excess heat per turn, sent to heatsink

I see that the only thing that produces heat is power production. Instead of having an orphaned stat, you could either do away with it, and instead make the generators larger or such, or you could require that you have enough radiator ability to cover your heat production before you can even leave the docks?
Weapons and others are also intented to produce heat. Also, the ships systems produce used energy/5 heat per turn.

I'll try and make a theoretical ship:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Size 101
  currently have the following parts:
    passive sensor set
    point-blank laser system
    external optics set
    active radar set
    4 conv. generator
    1 fusion generator
    1 radiator
    20 life support (100 crew)
    10 engine
    2 jumpdrive
   
    59 spots unused
   
Struct. Health 3950 / 3950 Armor hp is not intended to be identical structural hp. Nor is it supposed to stack. a heavily armored deck would grant 60 hp no matter how large it is.
  patchup health 20 / 20
Armor:
    Heavily armored deck 1 : 60 * 48 = 2880 HP
    Lightly armored deck 2 : 20 * 53 = 1060 HP
  HP granted by armor : 3940

Heat: -5 + 25 - 25 = -5

Energy:
    Size 4 conventional generator
       :: outputs 0~200 energy
       :: outputs 20 heat
       :: requires 4 fuel/miniturn
    Size 1 Fusion generator
       :: outputs 50~500 energy
       :: outputs 5 heat     Maybe fusion generators should output more heat?
       :: Uses 1 fuel / 4 miniturns
-------Total = 50~700 energy
   
Cargo space: 590 cargo space left

Decks
Deck 1 : length 48
Deck 2 : length 53

Engines
5 conventional
5 VASIMIR

= uses 250 power at full speed, capacity 100 size
Theoretical max speed = 550

Jumpdrive
2 Jumpdrives
Uses 30000 energy per jump
Charges at 6000 energy rate.
Is this energy the same as the energy at the top of the sheet?

Yes, Though I don't quite understand what you did with the jumpdrives. Also note that most numbers are unbalanced and made up on the spot.

Very complicated, I must note...Yeah I know.

Red for comments.

[Skyrunner]

120 / 100
This doesn't work, as it can't represent patching a damaged ship. (ie 50/80 (30))

I wasn't really supporting that part I suppose 100/100(80) is the way to go.

Size and cargo are combined. 1 non used size equals 10 cargo.

But right now, it doesn't seem like they are combined. In fact, they aren't - like in my 'ship character sheet' they have to be separated into Size and Cargo. I was proposing that you should just make it a big Cargo number, and have the various part sizes to be multiples of 10.

Yes, that's the only way to realistically create artificial gravity. It also allows people to protect reactors and other important things by stacking them on Deck 1

Actually, you can't create gravity that way. You have to either spin the ship round and round, or have a ship that has as much mass as a small moon.

>.>

Armor hp is not intended to be identical structural hp. Nor is it supposed to stack. a heavily armored deck would grant 60 hp no matter how large it is

I didn't quite understand that part when you originally wrote it

Yes, Though I don't quite understand what you did with the jumpdrives. Also note that most numbers are unbalanced and made up on the spot.

You said that jumpdrives (a) use 300 x size per jump (b) have a capacity of 50 each. Since the ship is sized 101, it takes 101 x 300 = 30300 energy per jump >.>

Unless, by 'size' you meant the jumpdrive's size.

I'm mostly trying to simplify your rough draft. <.< I feel like maybe I shouldn't have.

[10ebbor10]

120 / 100
This doesn't work, as it can't represent patching a damaged ship. (ie 50/80 (30))

I wasn't really supporting that part I suppose 100/100(80) is the way to go.

Size and cargo are combined. 1 non used size equals 10 cargo.

But right now, it doesn't seem like they are combined. In fact, they aren't - like in my 'ship character sheet' they have to be separated into Size and Cargo. I was proposing that you should just make it a big Cargo number, and have the various part sizes to be multiples of 10.Seems Ok

Yes, that's the only way to realistically create artificial gravity. It also allows people to protect reactors and other important things by stacking them on Deck 1

Actually, you can't create gravity that way. You have to either spin the ship round and round, or have a ship that has as much mass as a small moon.
I meant doing that and spinning the ship around. I just wanted it to represent internal damage more accuratelly.
>.>

Armor hp is not intended to be identical structural hp. Nor is it supposed to stack. a heavily armored deck would grant 60 hp no matter how large it is

I didn't quite understand that part when you originally wrote it

Yes, Though I don't quite understand what you did with the jumpdrives. Also note that most numbers are unbalanced and made up on the spot.

You said that jumpdrives (a) use 300 x size per jump (b) have a capacity of 50 each. Since the ship is sized 101, it takes 101 x 300 = 30300 energy per jump >.>

Unless, by 'size' you meant the jumpdrive's size. Yes, I did. 30300 is a bit much.

I'm mostly trying to simplify your rough draft. <.< I feel like maybe I shouldn't have. Yeah, then again it probably should be simplified, as half the mechanics aren't written yet it is already a bit too complex.

[10ebbor10]

I might use the system to create an RTD with players all being crew on one ship, but something is telling me I should just find a more simple way.

[Skyrunner]

Actually, you could argue that 30300 energy for a size 100 ship is better than 600 - jumping through the fabric of time-space should be expensive.

But 30300 is too large, like you said.

Anyways, plan on~



@ebbor's ninja post

I would think your complex system can only work in a single-ship'd game, mainly because of the complexity ...

[Draignean]

    Yes, that's the only way to realistically create artificial gravity. It also allows people to protect reactors and other important things by stacking them on Deck 1
Actually, you can't create gravity that way. You have to either spin the ship round and round, or have a ship that has as much mass as a small moon.
>.>

Yes you can, you totally can. Exact same principle as the whole-ship spin method, but the concentric deck method usually only applies the spin (and thus the artificial gravity) to the areas where people are likely to go. The non-spinning portion of the ship, the central hub that all the decks are arranged around, would probably contain mostly mechanical systems.

But that of course brings the next marvelous point...

Jump-drives but no artificial gravity?

Edit: Ninja'd into partial irrelevance.

[Skyrunner]

I was kinda assuming your method falls under what I said.

[Sirus]

Sorry 10ebbor10, but your system is just a little complicated for my Arena RTD

I do like the idea of multiple players in a single ship though. Try that!