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[fqllve]

It depends on the definition of 'welfare' capitalism. Personally, I'm a libertarian, so let em compete! Realistically a purely deregulated economy will fail due to the ammorality of human beings, so I support a mostly deregulated economy with just enough regulation to prevent economic blackmail and to support entrepreneurs and the lower classes (via assistance getting educated, not welfare).

Well then, how do you feel about unmarried mothers? Surely it's better that someone raise the children properly rather than a mother who has to work two jobs to support her family. That does nothing for society as a whole.

[freeformschooler]

What a confusing and ill defined system of words.

It's simply preposterous. The good thing is that most people don't have to think about any of it too hard.

[Zrk2]

Which is why you should try not to have sex if you aren't ready to settle down. In said persons case (whoever ends up caring for it) well, shit, eh? You probably should have considered the consequences. Hope you like nightschool!

NINJAS

[Max White]

British place island.

You don't happen to mean the United Colonies of Australia do you?

[fqllve]

That does nothing for society as a whole.

This was my point. Regardless of whether or not it was a good idea, having improperly raised children is bad for society.

[Criptfeind]

Bluh bluh bluh welfare capitalism has nothing more then normal to do with welfare then any other form of capitalism.

[Max White]

Ooh Criptfeind, I can always depend on you to use sound effects as an argument.
*Hugs*

[Criptfeind]

Ooh Criptfeind, I can always depend on you to use sound effects as an argument.

It keeps the pure rage from boiling over.

[Leafsnail]

Socialism has a few different definitions, I think.  For instance, Marx regarded it as a stepping stone to communism - a strongly state controlled classless economy, which was necessary since the people in it were raised as greedy capitalists.  The idea is that the people in this socialist society would then be able to move towards "communism", which would be similar but require no state intervention.

However, most people define it differently.  Depending on which definitions you pick, you could regard socialism and communism as being virtually identical or very different...

[Criptfeind]

Can we just get like Aqizzar to come in here and tell us what his definition for it is?

I respect him enough to say that if he thinks it, it is good enough for the forum.

[Max White]

Desire to make bad fanfiction of Aqizzar and Criptfeind, rising...

[Criptfeind]

TOO LATE!

I mean... No.... That would be weird...

[Taricus]

Can't we just agree that all of them don't work?

[Max White]

We could, but if we agree on things then the thread doesn't progress, and we end up talking about random stuff.

[Aqizzar]

Can we just get like Aqizzar to come in here and tell us what his definition for it is?

My definition is "Socialism" and "Communism" and "Capitalism", especially on the Internet, are such thoroughly loaded terms that they don't have or need a definition.  Certainly they can describe ideas in an academic sense, but the real world is so full of nuance that trying to pack even individual systems within nations into one label is utterly meaningless.  China, Cuba, Cambodia, Venezuela, and Angola are all nominally "Communist".  How many gigantic differences can you find between their economies, and the USSR for that matter?