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Author Topic: Roguelike Mafia Discussion Thread  (Read 33043 times)

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Re: Rougelike Mafia Discussion Thread
« Reply #150 on: August 20, 2011, 11:15:57 pm »

Currently on work computer.
Good browser based client?
I use the Chatzilla extension for Firefox. Not sure of any browser based clients...
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Re: Rougelike Mafia Discussion Thread
« Reply #151 on: August 20, 2011, 11:28:16 pm »

Mibbit.

I've only actually used it like twice, since I too use Chatzilla, so I can't say how "good" it is, but it keeps being brought up when IRC channels are involved, so it can't be complete shit.
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Re: Rougelike Mafia Discussion Thread
« Reply #153 on: August 21, 2011, 12:23:56 am »

Mibbit has definite security and usability flaws, but it's a nice short-term solution.
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If it scares people into posting, then yes.

If they end up lynched because they didn't post, oh well. Too bad for them. Maybe they should've tried posting.
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Re: Rougelike Mafia Discussion Thread
« Reply #154 on: August 21, 2011, 01:17:36 am »

Tested, broke several things, and things got fixed.
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Re: Rougelike Mafia Discussion Thread
« Reply #155 on: August 21, 2011, 01:17:59 am »

No more zombie-thieves!
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Re: Rougelike Mafia Discussion Thread
« Reply #156 on: August 21, 2011, 01:37:05 am »

Then it is less like a roguelike. Why would you want to get rid of zombie thieves?

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Re: Rougelike Mafia Discussion Thread
« Reply #157 on: August 21, 2011, 09:24:03 am »

Then it is less like a roguelike. Why would you want to get rid of zombie thieves?
Because their only goal in life was to steal one of your items, and then pass away.
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Re: Rougelike Mafia Discussion Thread
« Reply #158 on: August 21, 2011, 09:31:03 am »

All zombies are thieves out to steal your brain.
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Re: Rougelike Mafia Discussion Thread
« Reply #159 on: August 21, 2011, 10:54:21 am »

Delicious brains.
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Re: Rougelike Mafia Discussion Thread
« Reply #160 on: August 21, 2011, 12:18:44 pm »

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Re: Rougelike Mafia Discussion Thread
« Reply #161 on: August 21, 2011, 03:19:05 pm »

Added a Night timer. Also, the ability to !wait (for ops) and !go.

Oh yeah, and help finally has some stuff to !help for.
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Re: Rougelike Mafia Discussion Thread
« Reply #162 on: August 21, 2011, 04:26:32 pm »

For IRC, add an item that gives the number of each class in the game.
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If it scares people into posting, then yes.

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Re: Rougelike Mafia Discussion Thread
« Reply #163 on: August 21, 2011, 07:00:36 pm »

Nah. That one is so unnecessarily unbalanced with having a Mafia team, that you are unlikely to win unless you lynch correctly Day 1. I prefer the SK version, which allows for actual strategy, since then it is a free-for-all. For all. And killing items could actually be balanced.

I'm unconvinced that the SK one would be balanced for the SKs.

What about a team that doesn't know each other?


Also, join anyway.
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Re: Rougelike Mafia Discussion Thread
« Reply #164 on: August 21, 2011, 07:12:51 pm »

Nah. That one is so unnecessarily unbalanced with having a Mafia team, that you are unlikely to win unless you lynch correctly Day 1. I prefer the SK version, which allows for actual strategy, since then it is a free-for-all. For all. And killing items could actually be balanced.

I'm unconvinced that the SK one would be balanced for the SKs.

What about a team that doesn't know each other?


Also, join anyway.
A team that doesn't know each other? That doesn't help, because that's... you know... town.

And the SK one is more balanced. It'll need some more power for the SKs, but it is much more balanced. Especially since their wincon is 1 of 2 or less remaining alive with no one with a kill alive.

Your Mafia tends to have a ridiculous amount of power, plus the ability to mafiakill. What this usually amounts to is an item pool that is nearly double or triple everyone else, the ability to work together and use multiple actions, and a constant kill. This could be balanced if the game weren't completely random. This means that you need people that are playing for themselves that must work against the randomness to win. It relies on more Day game, and less on the Night game, meaning even if they get super unlucky with items, they could still win, since the Town is unlikely to use killing items. And if they do get super lucky with items? Then they are STILL fighting by themselves. It doesn't matter if they pick of Grayswindir, since then they can't double-kill like the Mafia. Picking up a wand of death isn't an end-all for the town.

So, the SKs are more balanced, since randomness won't allow them to triple kill unless they get a Scroll of Genocide and read minds, they are focusing more on the day game anyhow, since they are unlikely to win with only night game, and they are on equal footing as the Town, as they may have to fight other SKs, just like them. The only downside is that they are less-powerful survivors. But, hey, that's what happens when you're an SK. You're on your own team.
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