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[Mr.Person]

There's several solutions to this problem, guys. I would solve things by giving the town and mafia different item pools that hand out certain abusive items less often, but Web's "sk-only" strategy is fine as well. I think having a game with sks and a mafia would be fine since the sks would be totally willing to kill randomly to stop the mafia. One could also just take away the mafia's mafiakill.

[Toaster]

Interesting ideas, but to really test things I'd need larger games- 9p is hard to test out esoteric builds with.

You know, hint hint?

(A mafia team is not guaranteed)

[Mr.Person]

Ok, here's a list of various basic actions.

Kill
Protect
Inspect
Roleblock
Steal
Follow (where'd my target go?)
Patrol (who else visited my target?) (I always mix these two up. Also, where's track? FUCK IT)
Randomize
Gift
Anything else simple

Now, how many combo actions are there?
For instance, we already have protect+roleblock and kill+roleblock, so why not patrol+protect? We can call it Scroll of Sanctuary.

Scroll of Substitution: gift+steal from target.

Scroll of Assassination: follow+kill target.

Scroll of Clairvoyance: follow+patrol target.

Scroll of Racketeering: protect+steal from target.

Also, here's a nice unrelated idea: Scroll of Piracy: Gain a copy of a random item from target. Trying to copy an artifact means nothing happens.

[webadict]

Anyone wanna help test RogueBot? I think daykills are working. And even if they're not, you can wish for anything currently in the game right now.

Also, just say that this is miscalled Rougelike.

[webadict]

Lots of stuff ACTUALLY WORK! That means much of my work revolves around adding items, actions, and classes. If you have any ideas, other than those already listed in the Roguelike Mafia Game Information, as I use that as a basis, then feel free to share them. Hopefully, I can add them to the game. If it's too complex though... It might not make it.

[Mr.Person]

You need a scroll that changes your target's action into a random action. Because mwhehehe.

[Max White]

Scroll of Xom?

[webadict]

You need a scroll that changes your target's action into a random action. Because mwhehehe.

That might be difficult, especially considering that some actions are artifact actions. And that some actions do not target the same things.

[Toaster]

If you spelled out (somewhere- not necessarily in the item description) what actions it could become, then it'd be doable.  You'd have to specify what would happen if the target was targeting multiple people.  (Scroll of gifts targeting everyone, action changed to "kill," gg)

[webadict]

If you spelled out (somewhere- not necessarily in the item description) what actions it could become, then it'd be doable.  You'd have to specify what would happen if the target was targeting multiple people.  (Scroll of gifts targeting everyone, action changed to "kill," gg)

Well, that wouldn't be difficult. That would just cause the first person that's targeted to get killed. Though, I suppose the choosing of which actions to switch to is the really annoying part. Mostly because I would have to differentiate artifact actions from non-artifact actions. Otherwise, if you were switching your class, you might be changed to genocide on that class.

[Mr.Person]

Take a dump of the artifact list. Take the actions given by artifact items. For each one, store an extra flag. Boom, artifact flag. Each time an artifact is added and given a new action, tick the flag.

[webadict]

Take a dump of the artifact list. Take the actions given by artifact items. For each one, store an extra flag. Boom, artifact flag. Each time an artifact is added and given a new action, tick the flag.

That's still a bit too much. Especially for something like Excalibur, which has just a normal inspect added into it.

[Mr.Person]

It's the most efficient way to tag an action as coming from an artifact or not. And seriously, I think right now you have three artifact actions (genocide, invoke, and wish). Isn't Excalibur just "gain inspect, also resistance to whatever"? Obviously I'm talking about hand-doing things and not asking to program a bot to do this. Hell, one person could probably do this in a day even if there were literally a hundred artifacts.

Now, a more general question. What exactly do we need in the forum game's item list? More information-givers? More kills? More defensive and protective items? I don't have an answer, but this is something to keep in mind.

[Toaster]

I have an opinion, but I'll let the ongoing game run its course before I say anything.  I need to actually count items, as well.

[webadict]

BTW, RogueBot has vote actions, day actions, and several fixes to it. Woo! I think it is almost ready for some actual games! Would anyone care to try it some time? Perhaps tomorrow evening?