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[Max White]

Diversity is important, especially in a social species. If you don't understand why, then that is a serious problem.

Wow, after reading that for some reason I have this unholy urge to play Pata Pon.

[Jackrabbit]

Ehehe.

Anyway. Again, you would never get anybody ever to agree to this, ever, since you apparently think this could become reality. You know why? Not everyone is like you. Not everyone thinks that peace and harmony needs to be achieved by irreparably castrating the human race. This is a solution that doubles as an atrocity against mankind because it would destroy mankind and leave a shell in its place. It is a Dystopian ideal, one of endless nothing, rendering everything we've achieved meaningless and removing any impetus to strive for something better, and anything would be better than your suggestion. Diversity sustains life and if it's not broke, and fixing would involves impossibly huge atrocities, well... It's a horrifying idea that's ultimately not worth the end product and would require tremendous atrocities to be committed to make it viable.

I'm kind of worried you thought of it.

Regardless, I know you probably won't post in this thread any more, although I'm well aware you'll still read it so I'll leave you with this: you should have stopped when it was obvious that you were going to catch flak for this, since it's blatant that you're stepping down out of frustration. If you didn't want to get to this point, it should have been obvious that the required action was just backing away. And at the end of the day, Cthulhu's right. No matter how much you want to complain that we don't know the intricacies of your mind, kids our age do come up with stupid things like this. A lot. I end up in arguments like this at my school all the time. Some highlights:

• No, it's a terrible idea for society to be ruled by a mind-wiping AI.
• No, God is not atoms, you don't get to say what the Christian God is defined as, he's taken.
• No, a hierarchical system defined by yet another mind altering machine is not a good idea, will you stop bringing up tyrannical machines, Christ.

And of course, I've had a few. Whether or not you like it, this is something that comes standard to people in our age group. You'll probably grow out of it. I hope so.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

i had edited my previous post, but since people ninjaed me i thought i might make a new post:
also, yeah, read brave new world by aldous huxley, not because change your mind or anything, it describes a society based on genetics manipulation and behavioral conditioning... i found it not dystopical at all, just alien

as i said, the main problem i have with GK's utopia is the means by which it would be implemented. a lot of ideas would make for a perfect society, if we didn't have to impose them on people who disagreed with it. it would also be awesome if we could simply fly to space and survive there if it wasn't for this damn gravity of earth and the vacuum of space

[ECrownofFire]

Thank you Max White, for that amusement. And thank you Askot, for seeing what I am saying with a clarity that Jackrabbit does not possess. And why is this implausible? With genetic engineering and behaviour modification, my dream could be a reality. And you know the best part? If the entire world was like this, would anyone know that they were missing something? Would people in East Berlin have defected to West Berlin if West Berlin was the same as their home? No. I just don't see your problem with peace and harmony. I just don't. But I'm not going to push this issue any further and I'm not going to post on this thread again.

Let me just give you one last thing to think about. What do you do for entertainment, for fun? If you read, those books are all different ideas brought up by individuals. If you play video games, those are a creative endeavor, much like writing and art (no I'm not saying they're strictly art, but they're from the same processes). Anything you do connects back to people being individuals and expressing themselves. If you don't do anything for fun, then you take no joy from life and shouldn't bring others down to your level.

[Max White]

What do I do for fun?
Well stand in Vatican Square and pray for the pope to come out!

[CoughDrop]

What do I do for fun?
Well stand in Vatican Square and pray for the pope to come out!

You must not have been a happy camper when Dawkins made his speech right next to you.

[Max White]

One day... ONE DAY! The pope will come out of the closet and admit he is gay.


*BAM* Back on topic.

[Jreengus]

Of coarse variance is one of the prerequisites of evolution, so humans would look that way forever, and never adapt to any new environment, natural or artificial. Right now, humans are on average slightly better looking then they were a few thousand years ago, because good looking people have more sex, so safe to assume if you could time travel, then going into the distant future wouldn't be in your best interest, as you would be too ugly for their standards.

Human standards of beauty change far too often and vary far too much between both individuals and cultures for this to really have much effect on evolution.

[Darvi]

Some standards stay the same though. Such as your preference for symetrical faces.

[Max White]

You may or may not have noticed that as a rule of thumb, men from races that started wearing a lot of clothing later on after assimilation into wrester society, have a stereotype of being 'well hung' so to speak. Any idea why that might be kiddies?

[Lysabild]

He wants peace and harmony and makes a case for it by spreading disharmony and arguements in a LGBT thread. Mmmyeaaah.

[Jreengus]

Anyhow slightly more on topic I personally am asexual but I don't really tend to tell anyone unless they actively ask me, mainly because I often then have to explain asexuality and that no I'm not just saying that because I can't get any it's actually real. As for LGBTs  as far as I'm concerned unless I'm actively trying to have sex with you or vice versa why should either my or your sexual preference matter at all?

I did find it amusing the the first time I met the gay couple my sister lived with they apparently told her afterwards that they were surprised with how mature I was about it. I have no idea what they expected me to do.

[CoughDrop]

I was straight until I really thought about it and figured I like some guys.

It's weird because from my standpoint because it almost feels like it was a choice to become bisexual. I don't really bring it up much, though.

Also, I have this weird thing where I just seem to respect gay people more than anyone else.

[Lysabild]

I was straight until I really thought about it and figured I like some guys.

It's weird because from my standpoint because it almost feels like it was a choice to become bisexual. I don't really bring it up much, though.

Also, I have this weird thing where I just seem to respect gay people more than anyone else.

It's because we just that tiny bit more gay(this time meaning happy!). Oh the bad puns. <3

[Phmcw]

In Belgium it's illegal to discriminate or call for hatred of homosexuals. That's one of the things I like in my country.