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Should there be a stickied !!SCIENCE!! thread on DF General Discussion?

Yes
- 39 (47.6%)
No
- 24 (29.3%)
Who give a s**t
- 19 (23.2%)

Total Members Voted: 82

Voting closed: April 05, 2011, 08:12:13 pm


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Author Topic: Should there be a stickied !!SCIENCE!! thread on DF General Discussion?  (Read 1323 times)

GamerKnight

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Meh. The title and question says it all.
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Given that said threads are often the most interesting reads, I see no reason to smash them all together.
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No, we don't want the front page to fill with sticky theads.

No, the topic is too diverse and spans discussions of game bugs, military tactics, and fortress design.

No, the topic would be full of DF/bay12 memes.

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Far too much potential for individual !!science!! to get lost. Better to give each experiment its own thread.
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My answer to this is "no" due to my beliefs that there shouldn't be many stickied threads in General Discussion. In addition, I feel that !!SCIENCE!! belongs more to the general repository of knowledge, the wiki, and thus if we did have such a thread stickied it should go into the wiki subforum.

That said, if the form of the thread was not a !!SCIENCE!! thread itself but an index of !!SCIENCE!! threads, similar to how the Community Mods and Utilities List is not a mod thread itself but an index of mods, it could be useful. That would be especially helpful if the thread was in the wiki subforum, as that place isn't frequented as much as it perhaps should be and so the topic would likely get ignored often except when pointed out by experienced members, but as an index it could reference topics in other places.

In short, threads on individual scientific topics should go in General Discussion, Dwarf Mode Discussion, Adventure Mode Discussion, or Modding Discussion, as appropriate, while a thread on science itself should go in Wiki Discussion.
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My answer to this is "no" due to my beliefs that there shouldn't be many stickied threads in General Discussion. In addition, I feel that !!SCIENCE!! belongs more to the general repository of knowledge, the wiki, and thus if we did have such a thread stickied it should go into the wiki subforum.

That said, if the form of the thread was not a !!SCIENCE!! thread itself but an index of !!SCIENCE!! threads, similar to how the Community Mods and Utilities List is not a mod thread itself but an index of mods, it could be useful. That would be especially helpful if the thread was in the wiki subforum, as that place isn't frequented as much as it perhaps should be and so the topic would likely get ignored often except when pointed out by experienced members, but as an index it could reference topics in other places.

In short, threads on individual scientific topics should go in General Discussion, Dwarf Mode Discussion, Adventure Mode Discussion, or Modding Discussion, as appropriate, while a thread on science itself should go in Wiki Discussion.
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Can someone who voted yes please say something?
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Can someone who voted yes please say something?
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Joshua IX

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The only two treads I think need stickying are 'whats going on in your fortress' and 'dear urist' ...
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Except they don't need it since they stay up top constantly...
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Re: Should there be a stickied !!SCIENCE!! thread on DF General Discussion?
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2011, 09:50:26 am »

Argument won by this argument. managing stickeys means more administrative work for Toady, more administrative work for Toady means less time to make the game more !!Fun!!, less time to make the game more !!Fun!! = fail.
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Re: Should there be a stickied !!SCIENCE!! thread on DF General Discussion?
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2011, 10:04:21 am »

The purpose of a sticky is to keep easily accessible a crucial or particularly important information or a thread that would otherwise be buried in the previous pages by the constant incoming flow of threads; or to prevent the generation of several threads on the same matter.

The latter reason for a sticky is completely irrelevant on these forums, since it seems the moderators do not care about the "clarity" of the forums, and it seems to work fine by itself.

In the case of the former reason, !!Science!! information is almost systematically copied to the magmawiki, and each !!Science!! problem is individual enough to largely justify a separate thread since they either appear after an update or pop up uterly at random, usually at the initiative a single user who has already done the research (and hence acts more as a source of wondergasm than a template for analytic thinking).

Furthermore, !!Science!! research subjects are not particularly interrelated, and having a single thread for all research subjects would likely hinder the entire process since 2 conversations are bound to take place at the same time on the thread, supported by an elite derailment team.

But it was a nice idea.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2011, 12:14:11 pm by lotopius »
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Re: Should there be a stickied !!SCIENCE!! thread on DF General Discussion?
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2011, 11:08:26 am »

^WHAT HE SAID

lotopius just explained to us the !!science!! of !!science!! threads. I think this warrants a cookie.
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Re: Should there be a stickied !!SCIENCE!! thread on DF General Discussion?
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2011, 12:20:39 pm »

Here is a point: The wiki is an excellent place to put !!science!! and a summary of !!science!! articles.
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Re: Should there be a stickied !!SCIENCE!! thread on DF General Discussion?
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2011, 12:39:42 am »

^WHAT HE SAID

lotopius just explained to us the !!science!! of !!science!! threads. I think this warrants a cookie.

Very well. Someone get lotopius a cookie.
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