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[Ledi]

Nido, I'm having another issue...

my 'mountainhome' caravan came, bringing... nothing. At all. So I gifted them some junk hoping that they'd come back next year with something I requested... and it's next year... and they haven't left yet. I got the 'packed up' message as per usual, and the meeting went smoothly, then they just sat there. There's a clear run for them off any edge of the map they desire, and I'm confused.

I have seen this with LFR's Nephelim. Flying traders can not trade, and sometimes do not leave until you deconstruct the depot. It's a DF bug with flying.

Hrm, then I guess removing flier from pegasi would be the easiest way to go to keep this from reoccuring?

[Pokon]

Hrm, then I guess removing flier from pegasi would be the easiest way to go to keep this from reoccuring?

Unfortunatly, yes.

[Zangi]

In other words, a little like Fallout: Equestria

How excited would people be if I said I had a mod of this in the works?

I would play FO:E over MLF.

Adventure Mode?  Out in the wastelands killing everypony... or I guess be the vault dweller.

Dwarf Mode?  Making a city in the raider infested wasteland...  come all ye poor and distraught ponies... we shall build haven together or die trying.  Raiders, hellhounds, alicorns and ghouls be damned...

[Pokon]

Dwarf Mode?  Making a city in the raider infested wasteland...  come all ye poor and distraught ponies... we shall build haven together or die trying.  Raiders, Enclave, Talon Mercs, Red Eye, Steel Rangers, Raider-virus infused Vaults, rouge battledrones, the occasinal dragon, cyberponies, sandogs,anyone still around from canterlot, anything from the Hoof, zebras, the varying mutated Everfucked abomination, manticores, the Jackal, Viper, and Scorpion raider gangs ( complete with mutations appropriate for there names.) giant-blood sucking bats, giant mutated star-bears, rouge mutated buffalo, smallish mutated bears, heavly tainted/mutated/radiated ponies, Dead Horse tribe members,hellhounds, alicorns and ghouls be damned...

Fixed.  ...

My gods, this may be the most hardcore world ever put into DF, if it is done correctly. Oh, and who else thinks that any attempt to create a fort using this would make Arbu look like a completly normal place?

Oh, and someone simply must create Rampage in this as a once-per world megabeast. Probably with a super-hard to break "talsiman" in the torso and fast-regenerating "flesh" with no scaring could work.
Calling it a "red zebra" is a nice, nonindictive name that does not prepare you for your death.

[Crazy Cow]

Arbu would be tame compared to the stuff I'm going to pull. Not going to derail your thread, Nido, so I'll just put this here.

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[/*\] indicates that at least some progress has been made on this point.

CIVILIZATION
wastelanders [/*\]
   player civ

vault dwellers [/*\]
   trade

raiders [/*\]
   gobbos

steel rangers
   late-game, created wealth

enclave
   cheap food (syndromes?)
   fancy tech

hellhounds
   animal civ?
RESOURCES
wood
   trees [/*\]

food
   plants - few to none [/*\]
   syn-meat - grow in workshop w/ashes
   animal meat

salvage
   scrap metal [/*\]
   mechanical parts [/*\]
   electrical parts [/*\]
   weapon parts (can't find naturally) [/*\]
   salvaged parts [/*\]
      process into gunpowder, batteries, radioactive batteries, scrap metal, all other parts

metal
   cannot produce - only existing weapons/armor/etc. [/*\]

WEAPONS
shovel (wood+metal) [/*\]
digger
   +metal - shovel spear [/*\]

club (wood) [/*\]
   +metal - spiked club

baton (metal) [/*\]
   +metal - spiked baton

knife (metal) [/*\]

sword (wood+metal) [/*\]

pistol (mechanical parts+weapon parts) [/*\]
   +knife - combat pistol [/*\]

10mm magazine (scrap metal+gunpowder) [/*\]
10mm AP magazine (can't make) [/*\]

rifle (mechanical parts+weapon parts) [/*\]
   +knife - combat rifle [/*\]

7.62mm magazine (metal+gunpowder) [/*\]
7.62mm AP magazine (can't make) [/*\]

energy pistol (electrical parts+mechanical parts+weapon parts) [/*\]
   +knife - combat energy pistol [/*\]

energy rifle (electrical parts+mechanical parts+weapon parts) [/*\]
   +knife - combat energy rifle [/*\]

energy cell (batteries+electrical parts) [/*\]

gauss rifle (can't make) [/*\]

2mm magazine (metal) [/*\]

ARMOR
upper barding (chest)
lower barding (legs)
helm          (head)

champron  (head)
croupiere (legs)
peytral   (chest)
boots     (feet)

power armor (everything?)

CREATURES
feral ghoul
   doesn't bleed

radscorpion
   poison

radroach
   swarms

silver gecko

golden gecko
   valuable hides

fire gecko
   'fire' breath

brahmin

manticores
   large, powerful

moss zombie
   swarms
   made of weak material
   can't butcher

taint zombie
   tentacles, extra legs
   can't butcher

radgators

bloodwing
   flies, swarms

dragons
   tough
   mutant strains? no legs/firebreath?
   megabeast strain

ursa
   megabeast

MISC.
ancient civilization
   spawn with weapons and armor, can't breathe

deserts
   red/black have contact poisons?

[Pokon]

You may want to put this into a new thread, Crazy Cow, but here are my two cents:

FO:D

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On ghouls: my personal idea for ( Canterlot) ghouls was to have a creature spawning in evil areas that produced a pink necrotic substance with a low boiling point. Said ghoul would have all the body traits of one who has been slowly turning into the consistancy of leather for the past few decades, along with having no actualy needed organs save for the brain. It would probably come in both foal and adult variations. Along with them, another creature for Pinked (evil) biomes would be pack-hunting undead baby dragons. Necrosprites swarms would come straight for your town, and will be very hard to kill, being basicly undying toothy chunks of chitin.
 Within the "underground bunkers" (caverns) very powerful drones with high-tech weapons guard the mortal remains of the old nobility, left unlooted and still in fine condition for stealing. Go even deeper into the compound, and you might just find the last remaining free-growing food left untained within the wasteland. Yay for grass and adapted apples!


As for dragons, cave dragons would work just fine as they are, being wingless and actualy being a nice stand-in for the inbred and mutated remains of the varying populatons of sleeping dragons that where effected by the taint. Might want to move them up a cavern layer, however. Also, megabeast dragons might be given wings.
 Power armor might be something left as a "easter egg", being one of the most powerful things available. It might come in old and new variants, with the new one belonging to the Enclave and the older modal in the hands of the the Steel rangers, but the jurys still out on which ones better. I would say the older modals more effective, being that it does not have to be made to conform to a flyers wings and such. It might be best to give the enclave access to better metals, in that case.

[Zangi]

You may want to put this into a new thread, Crazy Cow, but here are my two cents:

FO:D

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*snip*
 Power armor might be something left as a "easter egg", being one of the most powerful things available. It might come in old and new variants, with the new one belonging to the Enclave and the older modal in the hands of the the Steel rangers, but the jurys still out on which ones better. I would say the older modals more effective, being that it does not have to be made to conform to a flyers wings and such. It might be best to give the enclave access to better metals, in that case.

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Technically, Enclave wouldn't have much access to ground resources... metals and wood.  They could have some kinda unique synthesized material for their own armor and stuff though.  Farming cloud technology or some other, heck if I know.
That would serve as being Enclave material only, well, you could give other civs the ability to breakdown the material from acquired armor and make stuff out of it... but they can't make the resource themselves, having to murder Enclave troops for some nifty lightweight resources.

Already derailing.  Success.

[Pokon]

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Well, they do have some bases near or on mountiantops, so having some ground resorces are not out of the question. It is true that they may have to rely on cloudstuff for general things like bricks or something. However, we could just handwave it as having them create there special metal as them using crushed gems to inhance it, or something. The varying "grades" of metal ( Civilian class, fighter class, experimental class, ex.) could be the result of them using rarer and rarer gems to make there baches of solid substance. Also, they do have access to some pre-war stuff, so older things like baseline steel is not out of the question, but it would be inferior to what they are currantly producing.

Yet, its not going to save them from a balefire egg launcher.

[Zangi]

I don't believe anything can survive that.

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How do you dot the world with them eggs without a civ being able to make too many?

McArcher Pony cancels training archery, misplaced Archery Range.
McArcher Pony (insert body part here) has been burned. x100
McArcher Pony has been struck down.

[Pokon]

I don't believe anything can survive that.

Ursa Major?

Snip.

No idea. We could try put eggs proper on very rare "ancient civilizean" (Zebra Terrorists?) creatures, with the actual launcher being another realy rare drop from something superpowerful ( Greater Horse WarModel: Tank?) Or, perhapes the egg shell must be made out of very, very rare substance that can only be harvested in small amounts (candy? No wonder why Zebras did not like luna for making starmetal armor.), and the interior must be made out of a sufficantly irradated matrial.

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(A Fake slade? Perhapes it is the actual Starstuff? It fits the profile. And it explains why there are so few of them existing. Now you know why the Zebras hated ponykind: They locked them up, and you are tempting fate by making these super deadly weapons at the cost of the saftey of the planet!)

[Ult1mara]

Nido. I have a few suggestions.

First - Do u think u could remove all "dwarvish" plants, trees, etc? And either replace them or not with MLP equivalents? Cause it just seems weird to see "plump helmet" in an MLP thing lol

Lastly - Changing the pets may be useful as well .... since u have "trees" as pets but How can they be? lol

[Pokon]

First - Do u think u could remove all "dwarvish" plants, trees, etc? And either replace them or not with MLP equivalents? Cause it just seems weird to see "plump helmet" in an MLP thing lol

Thats coming up. If you want to remove something, go to the raws and do it yourself. There is nothing stoping you. We have a good amount of crops already, and there is nothing the matter with growing wheat or berries. Mushrooms, perhapes, but not fruit.  Heres a hint: Change the word "Plump Helmets" to "Broad Saddles". There, ponyfide underground fruits.

Lastly - Changing the pets may be useful as well .... since u have "trees" as pets but How can they be? lol

What do you even mean by this? Yes, we have trees as creatures, but what else do you want? Tiny bunnies and birds following everyone? If you want them to talk and such, we have spent the better part of a few pages discussing them.

[Zarhon]

Lastly - Changing the pets may be useful as well .... since u have "trees" as pets but How can they be? lol

What do you even mean by this? Yes, we have trees as creatures, but what else do you want? Tiny bunnies and birds following everyone? If you want them to talk and such, we have spent the better part of a few pages discussing them.

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We could give bunnies the tags that let them claim ponies as their owners (and remove them from the cats, since a bunnysplosion seems more fitting for the setting). I'm thinking on whether making them war-trainable would be overkill though (would have to remove it from the regular dogs, since they don't seem vicious at all).


Heck, we should do that with parasprites for a realistic parasprite invasion. To counter the parasprites the egg-laying birds & bunnies could be modded to be parasprite-hating vermin killing machines (kinda like the "tasted blood" mechanic works with taming creatures currently). With any luck this would eventually lead to that one crazy pony with 50 parasprite pets tantruming over her "pets" being eaten/slaughtered by the birds/bunnies, in which case the problem literally solves itself. 

[Ult1mara]

First - Do u think u could remove all "dwarvish" plants, trees, etc? And either replace them or not with MLP equivalents? Cause it just seems weird to see "plump helmet" in an MLP thing lol

Thats coming up. If you want to remove something, go to the raws and do it yourself. There is nothing stoping you. We have a good amount of crops already, and there is nothing the matter with growing wheat or berries. Mushrooms, perhapes, but not fruit.  Heres a hint: Change the word "Plump Helmets" to "Broad Saddles". There, ponyfide underground fruits.

Lastly - Changing the pets may be useful as well .... since u have "trees" as pets but How can they be? lol

What do you even mean by this? Yes, we have trees as creatures, but what else do you want? Tiny bunnies and birds following everyone? If you want them to talk and such, we have spent the better part of a few pages discussing them.

It was only a suggestion dude. Since I am doing an LP of this and the Review for it I wanted to know a few things and thought maybe suggestions will be well received? And I havent Watched MLP at all. So I do NOT know what plants, pets etc are actually in MLP. But if suggestions are gonna be negatively received then I wont make one again.

[Ult1mara]

Lastly - Changing the pets may be useful as well .... since u have "trees" as pets but How can they be? lol

What do you even mean by this? Yes, we have trees as creatures, but what else do you want? Tiny bunnies and birds following everyone? If you want them to talk and such, we have spent the better part of a few pages discussing them.

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We could give bunnies the tags that let them claim ponies as their owners (and remove them from the cats, since a bunnysplosion seems more fitting for the setting). I'm thinking on whether making them war-trainable would be overkill though (would have to remove it from the regular dogs, since they don't seem vicious at all).


Heck, we should do that with parasprites for a realistic parasprite invasion. To counter the parasprites the egg-laying birds & bunnies could be modded to be parasprite-hating vermin killing machines (kinda like the "tasted blood" mechanic works with taming creatures currently). With any luck this would eventually lead to that one crazy pony with 50 parasprite pets tantruming over her "pets" being eaten/slaughtered by the birds/bunnies, in which case the problem literally solves itself. 

I actually like this reply it is not as "aggressive" as Pakon's but thank you for taking in my suggestions ^_^. I shall look forward to seeing wat happens ^^