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antymattar

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cave spider venom barrel?
« on: March 17, 2011, 10:28:46 am »

A caravan came and tried to sell some Cave spider venom in a barrel to me. What can I do with it?

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Re: cave spider venom barrel?
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2011, 10:30:49 am »

Nothing. If you're in dire need of barrels, you can buy it, forbid the venom, and then designate the barrel for dumping, which will leave a splash of venom on the floor (which won't have any ill effects on shoeless dwarves tracking over it, because venom is injected rather than contact-based) which your dorfs will clean up, leaving you free to use the barrel to store...let's say, wine.
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Re: cave spider venom barrel?
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2011, 10:37:22 am »

Same as blood, really.  You can do as described above to dump it, in case you want wolf blood floors or spider venom doors, but it's quite harmless.  You -could- mod it to be contact syndrome, at which point it would be dangerous for anyone walking over it, but not worth the effort, really...

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Re: cave spider venom barrel?
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2011, 10:42:23 am »

Besides, it'd kill more dwarves than invaders, if your dwarves go outside at all.
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Re: cave spider venom barrel?
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2011, 10:56:43 am »

If you dump the venom and then create a weapon stockpile on that tile, do weapons put there get coated in the venom? Would the venom work if something is injured by a weapon that is coated with it?
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2011, 10:58:04 am »

If you dump the venom and then create a weapon stockpile on that tile, do weapons put there get coated in the venom? Would the venom work if something is injured by a weapon that is coated with it?

Possibly. I doubt it matters much. If your enemies live long enough after the poisoning to succumb to it, your millitary is crap. They probably won't, though.
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Re: cave spider venom barrel?
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2011, 11:04:08 am »

No.  The weapon may get coated in it, same as weapons are coated in blood and vomit, but it doesn't inject.  Very debatable for crossbow bolts, but I highly doubt it.  Head to the mod forums and toss that idea, someone is sure to do some !!Science!! on it.

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Re: cave spider venom barrel?
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2011, 11:07:39 am »

What kind of pussy dwarf relies on poison to do a job that raw dwarfpower has been accomplishing for hundreds of years, anyway?

"'ey Urist, ye saw tha' goblin?"
"Ye stuck 'im wi' a needle an' 'e went limp."
"Aye. Ah took a few cues from th' noble giant cave spide-"

Urist McTraditionalist strikes Urist McDumbass in the lower right front tooth with his right hand and the severed part sails off in an arc!
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Re: cave spider venom barrel?
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2011, 12:33:38 pm »

I can see little more dwarfy than exposing an enemy to a poison that makes said enemy's eyes explode. I mean, there's the obligatory magma bath afterward, but still. Mod foxes or something else whose blood you can trade for to have toxic blood. Do this, and turn on splatter spreading in the init files. You'd only need one barrel of the stuff, really, and some dumbasses to wander around in it for a while.

Can booze become laced with other stuff? I've seen water laced with mud before and I wondered about it.

!!Science!! time.
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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2011, 12:48:54 pm »

If you dump the venom and then create a weapon stockpile on that tile, do weapons put there get coated in the venom? Would the venom work if something is injured by a weapon that is coated with it?

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Re: cave spider venom barrel?
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2011, 12:58:01 pm »

I can see little more dwarfy than exposing an enemy to a poison that makes said enemy's eyes explode. I mean, there's the obligatory magma bath afterward, but still. Mod foxes or something else whose blood you can trade for to have toxic blood. Do this, and turn on splatter spreading in the init files. You'd only need one barrel of the stuff, really, and some dumbasses to wander around in it for a while.

Can booze become laced with other stuff? I've seen water laced with mud before and I wondered about it.

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1) If you're modding, you could go all out and allow yourself to extract blood from meat/tallow and place it in a barrel, or other creative means.

2) Not really, but you can give booze a contact syndrome and then upturn some barrels.  I'm curious what happens if a barrel is on fire, and the liquid in the barrel is fireproof.  Does the liquid spill out when the barrel burns away?  If so, you could make some remote-control poison placement by combining barrels and lines of burning grass.

Alternatively, just make a new plant that works similar to sweet pods - you extract something from it, and that something can be poisonous.

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Re: cave spider venom barrel?
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2011, 01:58:17 pm »

Useless, apart from badass uses in spider-themed legendary soldier custom room.

Not only the room is spider-shaped (roughly), it also is painted with cave spider poison, it has a few GCS chained in it, what else ??

Or you can pretend your military are so badass they drink cave spider venom with no problem, and impress the populace. The fact that GCS venom is an injected neurotoxin and will probably get degraded by the dwarf's stomach needs not to be known by that same populace.

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Re: cave spider venom barrel?
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2011, 02:31:59 pm »

We need (giant?) cave spider men to become official creatures.

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Re: cave spider venom barrel?
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2011, 02:44:46 pm »

What kind of pussy dwarf relies on poison to do a job that raw dwarfpower has been accomplishing for hundreds of years, anyway?

"'ey Urist, ye saw tha' goblin?"
"Ye stuck 'im wi' a needle an' 'e went limp."
"Aye. Ah took a few cues from th' noble giant cave spide-"

Urist McTraditionalist strikes Urist McDumbass in the lower right front tooth with his right hand and the severed part sails off in an arc!


That is a great exchange right there. Unfortunately it is then followed by six pages of them fighting, because it is dwarven law that if you strike anyone it must be done until one, both or all participants require assistence in order to eat.
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Re: cave spider venom barrel?
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2011, 02:45:50 pm »

We need (giant?) cave spider men to become official creatures.
So that they can webswing their way into New Dwarfyork and kick Doctor Elftopus's ass all day long!
« Last Edit: March 17, 2011, 02:49:38 pm by Urist McGyver »
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