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Ivan Issaccs

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Re: Eve Online
« Reply #1950 on: September 29, 2013, 04:28:22 pm »

I wonder, how pay 2 win is this game? I heard that you can buy ships with real money, doesnt that cause inflation? Who made the ships? are they spawned out of thin air?

Inflation does exist in the game, as killing NPC's adds money into your wallet and I don't believe CCP's isk sinks like sales tax cover the difference, almost everything is twice as expensive as when I started playing five years ago but its not related to real money transfers. The premise is you buy a game time code from CCP which gives sixty days of subscription. In game this turns up as an in game item which you can either use and add time to your account or sell on the in-game market.
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« Reply #1951 on: September 30, 2013, 12:05:37 am »

Wow. This game feels.. great.
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« Reply #1952 on: September 30, 2013, 12:23:41 am »

If I could give any advice to any EVE player, it would be to move out of null and into c5/6 wormholes.
Aside from the fact your going to make 200 million isk an hour, I find the PVP to be the best you are likely to find anywhere. No more time dilation, blobs where you dont matter, structure bashing and your faction fitted tech 3's and carriers will be the staple of your killboard instead of rifters.

I disagree with this you need to be very well skilled to even consider looking at going into a worm hole and not to mention that if you go in solo your going to have to put in a horrible amount of wok just to even keep your self running. I find if hard to believe that you could make 200mil a hour, what are you doing ?.
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« Reply #1953 on: September 30, 2013, 12:38:13 am »

To be fair CFC guys are using 2-3 accounts to unironically afk 200mil+ an hour anoms (if there are no bads in local)

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« Reply #1954 on: September 30, 2013, 04:40:51 am »

If I could give any advice to any EVE player, it would be to move out of null and into c5/6 wormholes.
Aside from the fact your going to make 200 million isk an hour, I find the PVP to be the best you are likely to find anywhere. No more time dilation, blobs where you dont matter, structure bashing and your faction fitted tech 3's and carriers will be the staple of your killboard instead of rifters.

I disagree with this you need to be very well skilled to even consider looking at going into a worm hole and not to mention that if you go in solo your going to have to put in a horrible amount of wok just to even keep your self running. I find if hard to believe that you could make 200mil a hour, what are you doing ?.

C6 Capital Escalations.
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« Reply #1955 on: September 30, 2013, 05:55:03 am »

yeah, newbies can't do C6 capital escalations.

However, you can be salvaging and making 100mil+ an hour within your first few days, or in a afk droneboat within 3 weeks.

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« Reply #1956 on: September 30, 2013, 06:26:17 am »

you can be salvaging and making 100mil+ an hour within your first few days

...maybe if you have somebody doing L4 missions for you and letting you salvage behind them without taking a cut.  Otherwise, I don't think this is realistic. It's probably not even within an order of magnitude of realistic.

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« Reply #1957 on: September 30, 2013, 08:44:28 am »

It's actually what newbies are pushed to start from when they join goons - and they get handed a free noctis. space socialism

They salvage behind anom ratters in some of the best space in the game, and you can do it as a few days old character.

Salvaging anoms is a lot more realistic than telling a newbie to get involved in C6 capital escalations within wormholes.

Ivan Issaccs

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« Reply #1958 on: September 30, 2013, 11:27:28 am »

Its also a lot more fun than salvaging and doesn't require touching the giant pot of shit that is Goons.
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« Reply #1959 on: September 30, 2013, 11:59:26 am »

It's actually what newbies are pushed to start from when they join goons - and they get handed a free noctis. space socialism

They salvage behind anom ratters in some of the best space in the game, and you can do it as a few days old character.

Salvaging anoms is a lot more realistic than telling a newbie to get involved in C6 capital escalations within wormholes.

it can be anything, the only thing that limits new player is time, friends and intelligence, yeah lvl 4s pay enough, belt ratting and anoms pay good too. WHs and Incursions are an ISK faucet, the problem is that they are top skill content. it means a several days noob cannot do them properly solo WHs can be done to a degree, solo incursions are impossible anyways. i dont know how much pay the WHs from C1 to C4 BTW, i've only used WHs for short travelling. planning a long term goal of living in one using 3 chars (an scout/cyno, a fighter/miner and a industrialist/logistic). if the new depots and personal deployables come handy the next expansions i'll see if i can accelerate things with only one char.

again, my best recommendation for a noob who wants to make money at the start of the game and in the case it has the account means to keep doing it and improving is  security missions, you can get quite a good income at the start, and keep scalating, if you save your LPs you can get good sales with some faction items, i've reached L4s in a month, and they're very rewarding, the challenge is learning to do them and get good skills for your ship. training for security missions also gives you skills that could be used for PVP and other combat related activities.

mining can be profitable when done right (no AFK), be it ice, ore or gas (looks like WH gas types are really rewarding). and new you can get a mining barge in less than a month, the problem is that CCP hasnt invented a way to make it fun, keeping drones killing rats while you're putting attention to your laser cycles is annoying when you're more than 8 hours of play. only to do like 60 million isk a day.

exploration is another easy income, the problem is that with the last expansion it became so easy to do that basically the price of the exploration loot and salvage has fallen to the ground, only some faction stuff has the good price (faction towers for example, but i think they'll keep going down on price).

planet interaction is another good isk income, not so in empire space due to taxation, i hope Rubicon will allow to fix that to a good degree, i wouldnt matter at least paying half of the current tax for it. its a passive income which bases around the sec status, so try to find a null sec alliance that has a custom office or use one in low sec, in high sec you require to control several planets, but you can make some millions at the end of the month.

from all those i gain my accounts income via mining/PI and security missions, quite a feat for me....i recomend doing ratting in null but living in an alliance is very annoying sometimes, also, you never know when the next territorial change is gonna be.....
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« Reply #1960 on: September 30, 2013, 12:52:50 pm »

I had a fight last week, Frozen Dawn contacted us and said they were doing a LAN party and had been rolling wormholes for fights and had no luck so did we wanna fight them. Spent two hours rolling our static till we got there home system, jumped a 30 man gang through, ended up killing six capitals and had some of them dance naked on their twitch feed of the LAN party to ransom out the last Moros.

This is why I will never go back to live in nullsec again.
where is the evidence video to find? ;)
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« Reply #1961 on: September 30, 2013, 12:56:08 pm »

I think the rubicon expansion will destroy the economy to be honest. Think about it players can set what ever taxes they like for high sec. All the highsec guys are screwed
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« Reply #1962 on: September 30, 2013, 01:43:59 pm »

I think the rubicon expansion will destroy the economy to be honest. Think about it players can set what ever taxes they like for high sec. All the highsec guys are screwed

we have to wait and see, there are those who claim null blocks will take over the POCOS, the other claim that nothing will happen because its structure bashing without capital support, if the bastion module for marauders ends with enough power to do that, then yeah we're screwed. dont forget that they need to wardec the owners, so is an isk investment, also, reinforce timers.

i'm worried about the tractor/looting deployable, allowing people to get all the loot in one place means people wont blitz missions and will actually take the time to loot and salvage, this means that the market of rig components and meta items could eventually crash.

the economy could either crash or improve in the next month, but we have to wait the details instead of taking early conclusions. for the rest, the expansion seems interesting, new faction ships, new deployables, that personal depot could serve for early wormholers, the SOE ships look good and they could be the ultimate exploration ships, so there will be a good demand for them, which means a new influx of income for mission runners. siphoning POSes and other structures while temporary jamming cynos will give interesting results.
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Re: Eve Online
« Reply #1963 on: September 30, 2013, 01:48:37 pm »

Being a black ops FC I'm more interested in this section:

Guerilla-style Warfare Support - Tactics to chip away at the behemoths have surfaced, allowing small fleets of mercenaries, saboteurs and troublemakers to become cause for concern for even the most reinforced of alliance strongholds.

Any ideas what this cold be ?
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« Reply #1964 on: September 30, 2013, 06:41:05 pm »

Being a black ops FC I'm more interested in this section:

Guerilla-style Warfare Support - Tactics to chip away at the behemoths have surfaced, allowing small fleets of mercenaries, saboteurs and troublemakers to become cause for concern for even the most reinforced of alliance strongholds.

Any ideas what this cold be ?

well from one point it can be related to the new interceptor rebalance, maybe about things like the temporal cynojammers and siphoning units. which could be used to annoy the enemy. the whole concept of a "mobile encampment" with the new deployables could mean better ways of infiltration behind the enemy lines with a good fleet...

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