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[Aavak]

To make it not safe to use it.

Pretty much this. Despite the fact Eve seems like a game that would suite automation, the game mechanics are designed to discourage (though not remove) automation. They want people active, because an active player is more likely to cause or be involved in !!FUN!!

[Canisaur]

If you start a warp and then enable autopilot you'll still warp to 0 for that first warp.  I've done that many times in the past, though, and never received any sort of ban.  Never even heard of that.

[Rince Wind]

that is fine, because you initiated the warp yourself. And the destination is set at the time of the initiation.

They banned 2500 people though.

[deoloth]

All warp used to go to 15km from target. It was later changed so manual warping would drop you right on the target though, they just didn't change auto warping.

No idea what you could have done to get a ban if you didn't modify your client.

Ask for them to review the ban

http://community.eveonline.com/support/petitions/

[Poltifar]

After inquiring and looking around, it seems my ban has nothing to do with autopiloting, but was just lumped in with the 2000+ ban based on some sort of suspicious client behavior. What suspicious behavior, you ask? I have no goddamn clue. Or at least, any program that I was using, I had been using long before that ban, and had never gotten any complaint for. But apparently CCP decided to go draconian on applying EULA terms.

I'm not gona pretend I understand how exactly 3rd party programs interact with EVE and which are 'allowed' (or 'allowed until we decide they are not'). Just consider not using any programs that might even think of looking at anything EVE related, until CCP releases their updated API. This includes EVEmon, and the Contribtastic client that EVE Central uses to gather data, and who knows what else. There's a whole lot of arguing on the forums (HERE and elsewhere, which includes stuff like "Cache scraping is against the EULA. We will enforce it at our discretion." Cache scraping seems to be what programs like EVEmon use to interact with EVE, and maybe multiboxing, I duno, ask a programmer) about what CCP considers illegal, what not, random computer words I don't fully understand, something about these tools being usable both for good and evil, etc etc etc...

I've spent way too much time the past day looking through this crap, and I'm just too pissed now to continue. I'm not gona speculate on what brought me specifically on their radar, because I doubt it's one of those 'mainstream' tools, and I've admittedly tried quite a few tools related to gathering and sorting market data. Might be one I should have been more wary about, or maybe I just used them too intensively, who goddamn knows. It's clear that not even CCP knows what they're trying to do or looking for, seeing how they lumped me with people using warp-to-zero autopilot, which I most certainly have not used. In any case, doesn't seem like they're letting me back in again any time soon.

I'll take this 'opportunity' to study for my final exams without distractions, and maaaaybe I'll be back in 30 days if I'm not still pissed. For now, I'm out.

[Aavak]

After inquiring and looking around, it seems my ban has nothing to do with autopiloting, but was just lumped in with the 2000+ ban based on some sort of suspicious client behavior. What suspicious behavior, you ask? I have no goddamn clue. Or at least, any program that I was using, I had been using long before that ban, and had never gotten any complaint for. But apparently CCP decided to go draconian on applying EULA terms.

I'm not gona pretend I understand how exactly 3rd party programs interact with EVE and which are 'allowed' (or 'allowed until we decide they are not'). Just consider not using any programs that might even think of looking at anything EVE related, until CCP releases their updated API. This includes EVEmon, and the Contribtastic client that EVE Central uses to gather data, and who knows what else. There's a whole lot of arguing on the forums (HERE and elsewhere, which includes stuff like "Cache scraping is against the EULA. We will enforce it at our discretion." Cache scraping seems to be what programs like EVEmon use to interact with EVE, and maybe multiboxing, I duno, ask a programmer) about what CCP considers illegal, what not, random computer words I don't fully understand, something about these tools being usable both for good and evil, etc etc etc...

I've spent way too much time the past day looking through this crap, and I'm just too pissed now to continue. I'm not gona speculate on what brought me specifically on their radar, because I doubt it's one of those 'mainstream' tools, and I've admittedly tried quite a few tools related to gathering and sorting market data. Might be one I should have been more wary about, or maybe I just used them too intensively, who goddamn knows. It's clear that not even CCP knows what they're trying to do or looking for, seeing how they lumped me with people using warp-to-zero autopilot, which I most certainly have not used. In any case, doesn't seem like they're letting me back in again any time soon.

I'll take this 'opportunity' to study for my final exams without distractions, and maaaaybe I'll be back in 30 days if I'm not still pissed. For now, I'm out.

Really sorry to hear about all your troubles mate But I guess getting time to focus on studies isn't a bad thing, though still, could have come about in a better way. At any rate, good luck with your revision.

[Lord Snow]

Huh. So apparently I received a 30 day ban for client modification auto-piloting to zero. I am pretty sure I never modified my client to auto-pilot to zero. How do I dispute such a ban?

...Now I want to know how to do this.

Oh god, the time that would save. I only wish. Apparently they can catch you though, so that sucks. I've never quite understood the reasoning behind making autopilot warp to 10km except to spite people who use it.

To make afk-travel dangerous.

[Shakerag]

woot

Just soloed Dagan.

[ScriptWolf]

Guys I will be back online soon, have been away due to getting a new SSD and only having 100kbs download :/

[LordBucket]

With Poltifar on 30 day ban, who is willing to take over management for the tournament?

[notquitethere]

Just started playing this- on a trial, still seeing whether I want to fork over any money. What I will say is space is beautiful and I like what I've seen so far. Character name is Sozan Aldarr. Any advice?

[LordBucket]

Any advice?

It's always easier to answer specific questions, but here's some:

1) Do the tutorials. No, really. Do the tutorials.
2) Don't fly anything you can't afford to lose.
3) Insure your ships.
4) Read missions texts. Sometimes the objectives are not "kill everything." For example during the Cashflow for Capsuleers mission chain you'll be given a mission where the object is to fly in to confirm that there are bad guys and when they shoot at you...leave immediately before you get blown up by their vastly superior firepower.
5) If you use weapons with tracking, be sure to learn how tracking works.
6) Mining is boring. I don't understand why half of everyone wants to mine. Do fun things, not boring things.
7) Our chat channel is "Bay12 Eve". But it's been kind of quiet lately.
Ask here if you have specific questions.

[notquitethere]

Thanks for the advice! Is there any harm in flying around the ships they give you in the tutorials, or is there a very good reason for flying something better? I kind of want to explore the galaxy, see beautiful sights and have adventures. I'm not interested in mining and I'm ambivalent about killing people. I was doing the scanning tutorial last night when my computer decided to shutdown with an update (most obnoxious Windows feature ever), and so I'll probably finish that tonight.

[LordBucket]

Is there any harm in flying around the ships they give you in the tutorials,
or is there a very good reason for flying something better?

Well, worst case you lose it. In fact, I can think of two tutorial missions that actually require you to lose the ship you're flying. So it would be best to not buy expensive ones and fly them in those particular missions. Again read the mission texts.

Either way, buying new ships is probably counterproductive at this point, since the tutorials themselves reward you with quite a few ships. Just use the ones they give you.

I kind of want to explore the galaxy

Feel free. Just..Eve is not the most intuitive game in the world. It's possible to play for a year then go back and do the tutorials and be shocked to discover things you never knew. Even so, the tutorials are far from complete. But they do  decent job of explaining a number of useful things.

It's not necessary to do them before you leave the starter system. By all means go explore. But if you do stick with the game, you'll benefit from doing them at some point, be it now or later.

scanning tutorial

While useful, that particular tutorial is probably unlikely to be relevant for your first few weeks of playing. You certainly can scan down anomalies if you want to and in fact mission ten of the scanning tutorial will give you a good scanning ship. But if you're in highsec, there's not a lot of point in scanning unless you're looking for wormholes...and wormholes would probably be a bad idea for you right now. If you want to do it, go for it. But I'd say it's a relatively lower priority.

Cashflow for capsuleers is the important one. And then the advanced combat tutorial takes half as long as the basic, and if I recall correctly, also rewards you with a million ISK destroyer and a number of useful skillbooks. So you may as well do it too

[Rince Wind]

If you find a constellation with few people scanning can actually give you way more money than lvl 1 missions.
A single radar site (you need the hacking skill and a codebreaker in one of your medslots) can give a days worth of lvl 1 mission running ISK. But missions are constant income, while exploring is chance based. You can get lucky and find a 100mio ISK implant on you first day of scanning. But the chances are low.
Best bet for newer players that want to do exploration are Radar sites, followed by the easy combat sites.