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[Burnt Pies]

Sure, gimme an Email and I'll make with the invite.

[Frajic]

Any other new players here that would like doing L1/L2 missioning with me in a few days? Preferably in an European time zone, and I'll choose whatever race you are for practical reasons.

[Eagleon]

Just started a couple weeks ago. Currently running around in my sniper Cormorant doing whatever radar sites I can find and manufacturing power/hybrid turret rigs on the side. It's fun, except scanning is miserably tedious and RSI-inducing - repositioning probes soaks up maybe 25% of my actual game-time, or at least that's what it feels like, and that's just not cool. I don't know if I'll renew for next month.

[Thexor]

...god dammit, guys, I've got finals in two weeks. I can't be starting an MMO right now... 

...ah screw it. It's only philosophy. And astronomy, but really, those planets will keep orbiting even if we don't study them. And besides, I'm sure some part of EVE counts as studying astronomy anyways.

[Android]

I play with some guys from another game. We do lvl 4's, or lvl 3's if we get a faction lvl 4 and dont want to take the standing loss. I can run lvl 3's solo in my Drake. We got our own corp too, although I doubt we would accept random people into it.

[motorbitch]

The Maller's main feature is its tank,

i tend to disagree. i think mallers main feature makes the huge grid for its size, so its verry easy to fit even with low skills. when fitted with projectiles, its also verry easy to get capstable.
omen indeed is a good choice to beginn with, as it doesnt need any skill > 3 to be effective. its cheap and it gets l2 missions done. downside would be the low grid, making it hard to fit 5 guns. omen realy needs its lazor damage bonus, but using lazors for pve missioning will make angle missions much harder.
forget about the arby as first cruiser. skilling drones V alone takes so long, you could do much better druing this time. with higher skills arbys realy shine in pvp.

[Burnt Pies]

I went for the Omen as my first cruiser, and only managed to squeeze in 4 guns, but it still managed to do L2s very easily. Only one that I really had any difficulty was some rescue mission which drops 6 Merc cruisers on you. There are L3 missions with less cruisers than that, it's ridiculous. Also the Maller's a lot more expensive, I think.

I disagree with Drones V taking too long; it's nearly vital for any Cruiser sized ship or larger; Having a flight of 5 Hammerheads, Hobgoblins or whatever other drone you've decided on is a great feeling, especially when they're taking out the little bastards who've got too close for you to hit. And Drones is only a 1x skill, so it's a few days at most for it.

I'm currently flying a Harbinger, which is a brilliant ship; I'd recommend it to anyone. Going to get into my new Abaddon tomorrow, its my second BS, first BS I can fit the way I want to. The Apoc's having to wait for T2 pulses, as it's just not worth using anything else. The Harbinger can take L3s in its stride, and can even do a few L4s, but the 'Baddon's going to do much better at that.

Went wormholing for the first time yesterday; did a C1 with a corpmate. Made 195 million in total, which was then split between us. This is how I afforded the 'Baddon.

[motorbitch]

I went for the Omen as my first cruiser, and only managed to squeeze in 4 guns, but it still managed to do L2s very easily. Only one that I really had any difficulty was some rescue mission which drops 6 Merc cruisers on you. There are L3 missions with less cruisers than that, it's ridiculous. Also the Maller's a lot more expensive, I think.

fully agree.

I disagree with Drones V taking too long; it's nearly vital for any Cruiser sized ship or larger; ...//... And Drones is only a 1x skill, so it's a few days at most for it.

point is, you can either do l1 during these few days you wait for your drones, or do l2 missions with an omen/maller while you wait for it to finish and switch to L3 once your drones V finished. as you flew an omen, i bet this is what you did, too.

Going to get into my new Abaddon tomorrow, its my second BS, first BS I can fit the way I want to. The Apoc's having to wait for T2 pulses, as it's just not worth using anything else. The Harbinger can take L3s in its stride, and can even do a few L4s, but the 'Baddon's going to do much better at that.

baddon is nice, its my first bs, too. did l3s with it before i even had large turret skills. albeit the ship was slower and had undersized guns, it chewed trough L3 missions much faster than my harby  oô
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Went wormholing for the first time yesterday; did a C1 with a corpmate. Made 195 million in total, which was then split between us. This is how I afforded the 'Baddon.

damn, i have to do this, too. bought me a noctis yesterday, now im totaly broke ^^
how long did it take you to make the iskies?

[Burnt Pies]

Couple of hours with a low SP Harby pilot (Me) and a decently flown, poorly fitted Cane pilot, and his Salvager Alt with Destroyer. It's in the equivalent of 0.0, so you've gotta take precautions; have someone checking the Directional scanner fairly often, have a safespot bookmarked away from any features you can easily warp to, and make sure you don't stick around if anyone does warp in on you. Sleepers hit for all types of damage, so an active tank with a few EANMs/Invuln Fields is handy, and gives you a reasonable tank in PvP. Not as good as a decent Buffer can be, but better than a mission fit. Always bookmark both sides of the wormhole, and watch out for anyone nearby either side too. Bring a probe launcher and probes; if you don't and the WH collapses on you you're not getting out except by podding yourself.

In terms of ship progression, a friend bought me a Harby before I felt ready to fly it, so it got used in L2s until my drones, guns, fitting and tank skills were where I wanted them. I bought an Apoc because I prefer the looks, but the Abaddon out-performs it everywhere without T2 pulses, so I decided I'd wait and get both. Apoc's just sitting in Ordion waiting for me, poor thing. Got everything I need for the Baddon's fit, just need to wait for Engineering V and Large Energy Weapons I. Got Energy weapons up to III in the queue, and I expect III to be most of the way trained before I get round to using it in missions.

Oh, and I fit a single small gun on the last high slot on the Omen; a Med pulse laser with a Gamma S I'd found. Nothing else would fit, and 3 light drones can take a while to take out frigs, so it seemed like a decent thing to try. Worked surprisingly well; cut down the time I was waiting for the drones to kill the last frigs hugely. Not something more experienced players would advocate, but there was nothing else to do.

[Silfurdreki]

... Cane pilot...

I read that as "Crane pilot" at first and was wondering what the hell you were doing fighting sleepers with a transport ship.   

The best way to do sleeper sites is really to get an organized gang going and using remote reppers, shield or armour doesn't really matter, as long as everyone is using the same thing, obviously.

Also: what's up with everyone's rush into battleships? I hate the things myself, and it's common knowledge in my corp that as soon as I buy a battleship it'll be lost in a spectacular fashion at most two weeks from the day I buy it. My last battleship (a Maelstrom) went down with our previous POS when we got cut off from our wormhole in an ambush. The control tower is still out there somewhere. If any of you ever come across it, shoot a salvo at it for me, would you? 

Edit: Just felt like sharing a view from our current POS.

[Burnt Pies]

I'm a missioner, need a ship that can run all the L4 missions, and a BS is a lot easier to get into than, say, a Strategic Cruiser or Command Ship. Battlecruisers all the way for PvP, though, I'm far too new to make enough to replace anything except a very cheapfit 'Geddon with any regularity.

[Rysith]

The best way to do sleeper sites is really to get an organized gang going and using remote reppers, shield or armour doesn't really matter, as long as everyone is using the same thing, obviously.

I think people here are running wormholes from high-sec, and thus likely C1/2 rather than the kind where you need remote reppers[1]. It's worth noting, though, that you can run up to C4s or so in what is essentially a 0.0 roaming gang, which makes things much better for you if anyone decides to drop in on you.

[1] Plus, before you get either a bunch of battleships or a person or two who can fly logistics well, it's not really worth it to try spider tanking.

[Silfurdreki]

I guess you need a battleship for level 4's. I've never liked BS's since I don't think I've ever done a level 4 mission solo in my entire eve life, despite my character being almost six years old. I've always preferred low-sec exploration (or level 3 missions in an assault frigate before that was available). My covert ops frigate and my AF are still my favourite ships, I've flown frigates for so long that I think that everything above cruiser is slow and cumbersome.

The best way to do sleeper sites is really to get an organized gang going and using remote reppers, shield or armour doesn't really matter, as long as everyone is using the same thing, obviously.

I think people here are running wormholes from high-sec, and thus likely C1/2 rather than the kind where you need remote reppers[1]. It's worth noting, though, that you can run up to C4s or so in what is essentially a 0.0 roaming gang, which makes things much better for you if anyone decides to drop in on you.

[1] Plus, before you get either a bunch of battleships or a person or two who can fly logistics well, it's not really worth it to try spider tanking.

I guess, C1/C2 might not put out enough damage to warrant a dedicated logistics guy (or spider tanking) but C3 and above definitely does, there's just no way you're gonna tank all ships in the fleet enough and still be able to do enough damage to kill sleepers in decent time.

[Rysith]

I guess you need a battleship for level 4's. I've never liked BS's since I don't think I've ever done a level 4 mission solo in my entire eve life, despite my character being almost six years old. I've always preferred low-sec exploration (or level 3 missions in an assault frigate before that was available). My covert ops frigate and my AF are still my favourite ships, I've flown frigates for so long that I think that everything above cruiser is slow and cumbersome.

Some HACs (particularly Ishtar/Zealot) can run level 4's, but I definitely agree that exploration of various types is more fun, and that most of the battleships are functionally bricks. The one exception that I've found is the Minmatar battleships (especially the Machariel, which can feel kind of like flying a cruiser.

I know I've run C1/2 solo with HACs, and I'd guess that drake/Tengu could probably solo C3s. C4 and above you definitely need a well put together spider tank, though.

[Poltifar]

I went and got an Omen, fitted with 4 focused medium lasers as recommended. I'm thinking I'll fill the last high with a salvager.