Bay 12 Games Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  
Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5 6

Author Topic: Autistic Life  (Read 6395 times)

Tellemurius

  • Bay Watcher
  • Positively insane Tech Thaumaturgist
    • View Profile
Re: Autistic Life
« Reply #45 on: March 17, 2011, 04:50:11 pm »

You can tell there was a hint for a example.

Leafsnail

  • Bay Watcher
  • A single snail can make a world go extinct.
    • View Profile
Re: Autistic Life
« Reply #46 on: March 18, 2011, 12:28:12 pm »

I admit, I'm slightly put off by labelling people.

If you go to the hospital with an aching abdomen and they diagnose you with appendicitus, they've provided you with more information and have genuinely helped you to get treatment, as they've identified the cause.  If you're having trouble socialising and recognising social cues, and they tell you you've got autism, well... what exactly does that mean?  It means that the range of problems you have which you already knew about puts you into this arbitrary group of people who act similarly.  It's not the cause, it's just a classification of the result.  It feels like going to the hospital with an aching abdomen and being told you have "Strange Aching Abdomen Syndrome".

There is some use to it, but not in a diagnostic way, in my opinion.  It's more like categorization - putting you into a group where you might be able to get stuff better tailored to you.

By the way, there's been debates over whether HFA and AS should be merged, because ultimately the results tend to be just about the same.

I think the distinction you're trying to make is between LFA and HFA--and you're right that it's a very, very big one.  One of the reasons why I'm antsy about even considering having children.
I dunno, is there evidence to show it's heritable?  Unless you're more worried about upbringing, I guess.
Logged

Vector

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Autistic Life
« Reply #47 on: March 18, 2011, 12:40:04 pm »

Yeah.  The only power of the label is awareness for a particular class of problems, in the end.


Remembering the way in which I grew up, I vaguely worry about whether or not I'd be able to teach a younger me to get along with the world.  I just... well, at this stage of my life, it would be such a bad idea that it wouldn't even be funny.  I'm not very good at shielding people from unpleasant things, or being tactful.

And two of us together... augh.  That could be so bad.
Logged
"The question of the usefulness of poetry arises only in periods of its decline, while in periods of its flowering, no one doubts its total uselessness." - Boris Pasternak

nonbinary/genderfluid/genderqueer renegade mathematician and mafia subforum limpet. please avoid quoting me.

pronouns: prefer neutral ones, others are fine. height: 5'3".

Tellemurius

  • Bay Watcher
  • Positively insane Tech Thaumaturgist
    • View Profile
Re: Autistic Life
« Reply #48 on: March 18, 2011, 12:43:40 pm »

Autism is possibly inheritable but will you be able to determine the level? No. Vector do not be scared what would your kid turn out to be, as far as im concern, this the current brain evolution that most of us need to adapt with. It will be very tough to change a kid's habit but it can be done.

MetalSlimeHunt

  • Bay Watcher
  • Gerrymander Commander
    • View Profile
Re: Autistic Life
« Reply #49 on: March 18, 2011, 02:52:30 pm »

Vector do not be scared what would your kid turn out to be, as far as im concern, this the current brain evolution that most of us need to adapt with.
Could you elaborate on this?
Logged
Quote from: Thomas Paine
To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.
Quote
No Gods, No Masters.

Tellemurius

  • Bay Watcher
  • Positively insane Tech Thaumaturgist
    • View Profile
Re: Autistic Life
« Reply #50 on: March 18, 2011, 03:08:30 pm »

Possible Theory: Considering the growing rate of autism in kids (1-2 out of 1000), its possible that humans are entering into next evolution.

That or we are really paranoid over everything.

MetalSlimeHunt

  • Bay Watcher
  • Gerrymander Commander
    • View Profile
Re: Autistic Life
« Reply #51 on: March 18, 2011, 03:13:17 pm »

That doesn't make any sense. Evolution isn't somthing that is "entered into", it's a process in which those most fit to survive reproduce and pass down their traits. Autisim is socially crippling and in more severe cases can make living a normal life utterly impossible. That isn't conductive to survival or reproduction. I also don't think the autism rate is much growing, it's just that we've just gotten better at identifying it.
Logged
Quote from: Thomas Paine
To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.
Quote
No Gods, No Masters.

Tellemurius

  • Bay Watcher
  • Positively insane Tech Thaumaturgist
    • View Profile
Re: Autistic Life
« Reply #52 on: March 18, 2011, 03:17:05 pm »

That doesn't make any sense. Evolution isn't somthing that is "entered into", it's a process in which those most fit to survive reproduce and pass down their traits. Autisim is socially crippling and in more severe cases can make living a normal life utterly impossible. That isn't conductive to survival or reproduction. I also don't think the autism rate is much growing, it's just that we've just gotten better at identifying it.
Think of it what you will then, my thought still stands, i will have to research even more for it but that is what i believe.

G-Flex

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Autistic Life
« Reply #53 on: March 18, 2011, 06:21:25 pm »

Possible Theory: Considering the growing rate of autism in kids (1-2 out of 1000), its possible that humans are entering into next evolution.

I don't get what this is supposed to mean. How is autism evolutionarily advantageous, and what is "the next evolution" supposed to mean? Evolution is a constant process and doesn't have "levels".


It's very likely that more people are being diagnosed with autism because diagnosis in general simply occurs more often, the procedures are different, and there's more awareness of it. More diagnoses doesn't mean greater prevalence.
Logged
There are 2 types of people in the world: Those who understand hexadecimal, and those who don't.
Visit the #Bay12Games IRC channel on NewNet
== Human Renovation: My Deus Ex mod/fan patch (v1.30, updated 5/31/2012) ==

ChairmanPoo

  • Bay Watcher
  • Send in the clowns
    • View Profile
Re: Autistic Life
« Reply #54 on: March 18, 2011, 06:22:56 pm »

 I get reminded of this threadhttp://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=47249.0
Logged
Everyone sucks at everything. Until they don't. Not sucking is a product of time invested.

G-Flex

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Autistic Life
« Reply #55 on: March 18, 2011, 06:24:28 pm »

Yeah, bloodshederTellemurius's comment reminded me of that stuff. Autistic people: Now with superpowers!
Logged
There are 2 types of people in the world: Those who understand hexadecimal, and those who don't.
Visit the #Bay12Games IRC channel on NewNet
== Human Renovation: My Deus Ex mod/fan patch (v1.30, updated 5/31/2012) ==

Taricus

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Autistic Life
« Reply #56 on: March 18, 2011, 06:25:42 pm »

Yeah, bloodshederTellemurius's comment reminded me of that stuff. Autistic people: Now with superpowers!

I've not seen any unusual abilities :P
Logged
Quote from: evictedSaint
We sided with the holocaust for a fucking +1 roll

Tellemurius

  • Bay Watcher
  • Positively insane Tech Thaumaturgist
    • View Profile
Re: Autistic Life
« Reply #57 on: March 18, 2011, 06:37:50 pm »

Yeah, bloodshederTellemurius's comment reminded me of that stuff. Autistic people: Now with superpowers!
>_> Im working on it but with the high levels of people having the disorder something must be interconnected.

G-Flex

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Autistic Life
« Reply #58 on: March 18, 2011, 06:51:58 pm »

... And why does the "connection" have to be "human evolution"? Why can't it be environmental? Pollution? Social causes? Or, like I said, simply a higher rate of diagnosis, or a higher proportion or those diagnoses as opposed to other diagnoses that could/would be used instead for those same people?
Logged
There are 2 types of people in the world: Those who understand hexadecimal, and those who don't.
Visit the #Bay12Games IRC channel on NewNet
== Human Renovation: My Deus Ex mod/fan patch (v1.30, updated 5/31/2012) ==

Taricus

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Autistic Life
« Reply #59 on: March 18, 2011, 06:52:57 pm »

Could also be a higher number of false-flag diagnosis.
Logged
Quote from: evictedSaint
We sided with the holocaust for a fucking +1 roll
Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5 6