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Re: Battle:LA was pretty cool (spoilers)
« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2011, 04:26:21 pm »

If we had an accurate Alien Invasion movie, humans wouldn't win.
We're crazy killing machines evolved in the heart of Africa, Earth's Death Continent, and have made almost all of our technological progress in under one percent of the time our species has existed. We destroy each other and our enviorments en mass without a second thought, in no small part because we have a semi-self-destructive psychological makeup. Even the most unhealthy members of our society can go from their unhealthy state to peak killer mode in a couple of weeks, tops. Our species has been known to hunt things by simply following them untill they drop dead of an exhaustion-induced heart attack. Somehow, I think that the aliens would have a nasty suprise waiting for them on this little blue marble of ours.
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Re: Battle:LA was pretty cool (spoilers)
« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2011, 04:31:03 pm »

If we had an accurate Alien Invasion movie, humans wouldn't win.
We're crazy killing machines evolved in the heart of Africa, Earth's Death Continent, and have made almost all of our technological progress in under one percent of the time our species has existed. We destroy each other and our enviorments en mass without a second thought, in no small part because we have a semi-self-destructive psychological makeup. Even the most unhealthy members of our society can go from their unhealthy state to peak killer mode in a couple of weeks, tops. Our species has been known to hunt things by simply following them untill they drop dead of an exhaustion-induced heart attack. Somehow, I think that the aliens would have a nasty suprise waiting for them on this little blue marble of ours.

And that is why we won't win. They will take one look at our entertainment broadcasts and say "dude, these things are brutal. Lets not even nuke em from orbit, just nudge a couple rocks their way from the asteroid belt. We can afford to wait a couple years."
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Re: Battle:LA was pretty cool (spoilers)
« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2011, 04:33:28 pm »

If we had an accurate Alien Invasion movie, humans wouldn't win.
We're crazy killing machines evolved in the heart of Africa, Earth's Death Continent, and have made almost all of our technological progress in under one percent of the time our species has existed. We destroy each other and our enviorments en mass without a second thought, in no small part because we have a semi-self-destructive psychological makeup. Even the most unhealthy members of our society can go from their unhealthy state to peak killer mode in a couple of weeks, tops. Our species has been known to hunt things by simply following them untill they drop dead of an exhaustion-induced heart attack. Somehow, I think that the aliens would have a nasty suprise waiting for them on this little blue marble of ours.

And that is why we won't win. They will take one look at our entertainment broadcasts and say "dude, these things are brutal. Lets not even nuke em from orbit, just nudge a couple rocks their way from the asteroid belt. We can afford to wait a couple years."
Rocks that we can see. And blow up. And then follow the trajectory of, so that we may find the alien's ships, allowing us to kill and eat them. Followed by stealing everything they have and reverse-enginering it.

....we're starting to sound like the Tyranids, now that I type that out.
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Re: Battle:LA was pretty cool (spoilers)
« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2011, 04:58:50 pm »

(Something like this may have been said already, but as I haven't seen B:LA I don't want to read the thread yet in case of *spoilers* of a non-cyan kind...)

In the supermarket, yesterday, I saw the DVD "Battle for Los Angeles".  Strange, thought I, as it's only just appeared on the big screen in the local multiplex.  It looked... similar... although the images of the whizzing spaceships emerging from the mothership were a little too small to relate to the trailer I saw a few weeks back.

However, on the back it said (not very prominently) "Film NOT Battle: Los Angeles".

Looks like another case of the duality of studio production that we got with Armageddon/Deep Impact or Twister/whatever-the-other-film-about-storm-chasing-that-came-out-around-that-time-was-called.
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« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2011, 05:27:54 pm »

To Thobal:  Quoting mytself from earlier in this thread:

B:LA  was a blast to watch.  No muss, no fuss, no "deeper" allegories, just gung ho military patriotic blowy-up type actionIf you were looking for anything else when you went to watch this movies, you went there to dislike it in the first place.  IMO of course.



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Re: Battle:LA was pretty cool (spoilers)
« Reply #35 on: March 17, 2011, 05:35:17 pm »

The main reason to go is for the eye-candy. 

It wasn't in 3D at the theater I went to.  The newer 3D glasses don't hurt your eyes though, so if the option is available there isn't much reason not to go for it.

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« Reply #36 on: March 17, 2011, 06:14:27 pm »

To Thobal:  Quoting mytself from earlier in this thread:

B:LA  was a blast to watch.  No muss, no fuss, no "deeper" allegories, just gung ho military patriotic blowy-up type actionIf you were looking for anything else when you went to watch this movies, you went there to dislike it in the first place.  IMO of course.

I was expecting something with a bit wider of a view. Not stuck following the same plot line I've seen 50 times before. It was Boring. I was expecting an ensemble cast. I can deal with pseudo-fascism. I just hate recycled plot lines.
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« Reply #37 on: April 06, 2011, 04:16:26 pm »

Well, seen it.  Feel-good movie with an underlying personal angst, quite a lot of predictable but at least decently implemented railroaded plotline[1] and boy have they started to perfect the CGI overlaid on unsteadycam shots (especially if this was done with full 3D in mind).  To find, yet again, that the person to save the world is again a troubled American is hardly worth mentioning. :)

In short, I liked it, but it was dotted with Chekhov's Guns.  The effects I'd 9/10 (marking up a bit to make sure my "oh, so this was for 3D" scepticism isn't skewing the result down).  Acting decent (but to the standard stereotypes), also Aaron Eckhart kept on reminding me too much of Scott Bakula with a bit more bulk.  Science was definitely flaky[2][4][5][6].  SFX good but (watching a non-3D showing) it had the obvious signs of being designed for 3D-ness.  And how come the aliens were such bad ambushers[7]?

Oh yeah, and didn't it become daylight quickly, at the end?  Or did I somehow miss several hours of trudging underground[8]?


Still, while I could have spent the ticket-price on something else, at least I've seen it, and I can now stop ignoring this thread while it appears under my "New replies" list.  Although by writing this, I am sort of necroing the thread, so reserved apologies to everyone else who posted and thought this was over.  :)


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Re: Battle:LA was pretty cool (spoilers)
« Reply #38 on: April 06, 2011, 04:26:25 pm »

I finally went to see this with my Dad on Saturday.  It was his idea, which surprised me, but one of his favorite movies is (the original) War of the Worlds, so hey why not.  We actually missed the first 15-20 minutes of the movie, but I got the feeling by the end that we didn't miss much.

The movie had absolutely no plot or story beyond the physical aspect of soldiery.  The characters were flat nonentities devoid of any feeling or emotion beyond being blubbering pussies, which is definitely an effect of expecting the soldiers in action movies to be cigar-chomping badasses and not a reflection on any sort of reality.  Blubbering pussies just make for boring cinema.  They wouldn't have been quite so boring if every single line and plot-point was telegraphed a mile away and drawn from the same stock stable of war-movie lines films have used since the 1970s.  And of course, the have to fight the most nonsensically designed aliens since Mars Attacks.  And woo, obvious cliffhanger is obvious.

I saw one of the main actors on the Daily Show before I saw the movie, and he talked at length about videogames.  There was a very strong sense through the whole movie of grinding through a hack summer-churn FPS, but with live acting.  It may the first movie I've seen, or at least remember, where the launch-film is itself a vehicle for its own tie-in marketing.  The whole movie was basically a long commercial for itself.
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« Reply #39 on: April 06, 2011, 05:22:17 pm »

We actually missed the first 15-20 minutes of the movie, but I got the feeling by the end that we didn't miss much.

Briefly: Opens to air cavalry with marines on board going into battle over LA, views from within of a bunch of marines with obviously named-character qualities but so far unidentified undergoing the pre-battle stress, and all hell breaking loose.

Then, fade out and subtitle of "24 hours until contact".  Fade into to Scott BakulaAaron Ekhart, exercising on the beach, press-ups, pull ups, then jogging.  Gets quickly overtaken ("Good morning, Staff", "Good morning Staff!" cries from them) by less far less grizzled guys, whom he tries to keep up with and fails.  General indications of being old.  Cut to just failing to get a cool juice drink from a freezer box, grabs an ice-bag instead.  Witty repartee from the guy with the last cool juice drink "You're only as old as you feel!", and response of "I can't feel a thing" while using ice-bag to pander to obviously aching leg muscles.

Then, I think, it went to a military office. Some witty repartee with an obviously first-name-terms superior regarding the fact that the latter didn't believe Staff Sgt Nantz had written a resignation request because he "can't write".  Hints at that self-same incident which come to the later on about losing people.  Some quick visits to others that are part of the unit he will later command, guy obviously getting married shopping for flowers (it'll be cakes, tomorrow), with wife-to-be and fellow unit member ("scarily" cultured when it comes to botany) who I take to also being marked as his best man at that wedding.  One guy in the base's doctor's office talking about he's now better, and ready for combat after being originally jumpy in places like the firing range, seemingly after a previous tour shook him up a bit.  African guy Skyping with a girl in his native lingo, allowing the introduction of another unit member who makes the faux-pas of admiring the girl, who turns out to be his sister.  Guy in a military graveyard talking to (it turns out) his brother's gravestone, holding a golf-club and announcing he'd uphold the family tradition...  I think that even during this sequence there were background news-reports of asteroids heading for Earth.  Paid varying amounts of heed, regardless.

Transitions to night-time with the entire unit obviously doing some "illicit golf" and general verbal fraternisation with some wandering members the opposite sex with all the usual closely-bonding comradely-ribaldry you'd expect.  Some sort of ritual pre-exercise thing, it seems, because then, the next day, off on exercise in a giant sand-pit.  Except that they almost immediately get met up with transports and orders to go over and help with civilian evacuations (just because of all the gawpers who are there to watch the predicted impacts, people being worried about the sea, no sign of anything nastier than natural phenomena).

This must be about where you and your Dad came in, by my estimate[1], if not well after.  But if it wasn't, the remaining gaps aren't going to be so large.

HTH, HAND.

[1] Especially as I arrived at my 18:30 showing at around 18:35 to find the trailer reel wasn't even playing, sat around as the intro and trailer reel wound through until the actual film started at approx 18:55.  So it's possible that you just missed a couple of minutes, if your cinema does the same thing.  (Although usually this complex starts off the trailers at no later than the stated start time, and five minutes into time they'd be trailering with the lights down, so they might also have been running short of projection managers, or something.)
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Re: Battle:LA was pretty cool (spoilers)
« Reply #40 on: April 06, 2011, 05:45:38 pm »

...It may the first movie I've seen, or at least remember, where the launch-film is itself a vehicle for its own tie-in marketing.  The whole movie was basically a long commercial for itself.

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« Reply #41 on: April 06, 2011, 05:57:45 pm »

I found the movie quite nice, mostly because it wasn't a classical Aliens come and curbstomp us untill we find some ridicilous weakness and the day is saved.It was very similar but deviated enough for it to be interesting, with some back and forth fighting that was pretty even sided untill the aliens got their flying thingies.Then after the mothership thing is destroyed they loose their air support and the fight seems to go on as normal.A sequel is to be expected, and i think it's going to be interesting since i don't think we've had a real alien war on earth movie in ages (if ever) that has both sides more-less equal in terms of firepower.
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« Reply #42 on: April 06, 2011, 09:51:05 pm »

I can say one thing, and one thing only about this movie:

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« Reply #43 on: April 07, 2011, 07:33:51 am »


In the supermarket, yesterday, I saw the DVD "Battle for Los Angeles".  Strange, thought I, as it's only just appeared on the big screen in the local multiplex.  It looked... similar... although the images of the whizzing spaceships emerging from the mothership were a little too small to relate to the trailer I saw a few weeks back.

However, on the back it said (not very prominently) "Film NOT Battle: Los Angeles".

Looks like another case of the duality of studio production that we got with Armageddon/Deep Impact or Twister/whatever-the-other-film-about-storm-chasing-that-came-out-around-that-time-was-called.

I saw some of that movie on on the Sci-Fi channel. Let's just say you were wise not to get it.
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« Reply #44 on: April 07, 2011, 11:12:23 am »

I think the responses here proves my earlier statement.  So, at least, that makes me happy.  Also, still loved the movie.
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